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To reply to the off topic comment on Westfield.

Westfield is the largest retail property group in the world and is an Australian company. They own malls all over the world including the UK

I live near the very first Westfield Mall (however it not the first Westfield location which was in Blacktown ) which was totally redeveloped (well they knocked the old one down and put up a new one around 5 times as big-its quite swanky now)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Westfield_Group

Thanks for the info. I recently discovered the extent of their grasp on world shopping centres. I guess we were just late to the party. :)
 
3G - in the form of ATT is UMTS/HSDPA/HSUPA. Currently it is about the same speed as EVDO, with new revisions of EV-DO being perhaps slightly faster. However, HSDPA/HSUPA are in their early stages, while EV-DO is quickly approaching its ceiling. HSD/HSUPA will be up to 7mbps within a year, and AT&T will probably be hitting 14ish range before they start transitioning to Super 3G/4G. So at the moment...not much difference, however check back in a year or even a few months, and yes, it will be faster.

History has taught us that we will never see the 14 mbps version of HSDPA --- because the carriers would already move into new technologies.

GPRS had a "max" paper spec speed of over 170 kbps --- we never saw this version because the carriers upgraded to EDGE (so GPRS was stuck in the 50-60 kbps range).

EDGE has a "max" paper spec speed of over 400+ kbps --- we never saw this version because the carriers upgraded to WCDMA (so EDGE was stuck in the 150-180 kbps range).

WCDMA has a "max" paper spec speed of over 2 mbps --- we never saw this version because the carriers upgraded to HSDPA (so WCDMA was stuck in the max 384 kbps range).

That's the big difference between the GSM and the CDMA world --- GSM manufacturers hype all kinds of theoretical paper spec speeds that have never made it into the real world. The issue isn't EV-DO has hit the ceiling. The issue is that HSDPA will never go into those paper spec speed.
 
I'd rather be locked into a two year contract than pay what will probably be like all other unlocked iphones upwards of a grand for the iphone. If this is even true, which is very questionable.

As I said earlier --- even if everything that was rumored is true --- it still doesn't mean that it's going to be an unlocked iphone in Australia.

Multiple Australian iphone carriers --- can mean the Australian iphones are locked to multiple Australian carriers.
 
If you think Apple is going to let AU customers have unlocked phones not tied to one carrier your living in fantasyland! Apple makes more money taking 10% of your monthly bill then they do selling the phone and they are not going to let that slide!

We all know Apple does not send out communications to resellers months before the release of a product. The entire article is fake and its meant to draw attention to the Aussies that have felt left out as they don't have the iPhone yet.
 
If you think Apple is going to let AU customers have unlocked phones not tied to one carrier your living in fantasyland! Apple makes more money taking 10% of your monthly bill then they do selling the phone and they are not going to let that slide!

Yes they might get more money being locked into one carrier by money sharing in a big market like the USA or Europe but in Aust we are small plus it is against the law for a phone(brand) to be locked to a carrier as we have a regulated telecom system in aust so Craig sit back and relax smoke some redneck USA pot

We all know Apple does not send out communications to resellers months before the release of a product. The entire article is fake and its meant to draw attention to the Aussies that have felt left out as they don't have the iPhone yet.

The article is not fake the person who posted the article on mactalk is very creditable and the info is awell and just to put fuel on the fire put this in your pipe and smoke it

iPhone page in Aust from apple Aust

Italy iPhone

Goodguys article on the Iphone

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Goodguys wow it must be true... Come on they are just taking a punt like Crazyjohns did. I saw an iphone and tried it in a Crazy Jjohns store and they were adamant it was coming to Vodafone in Australia in December (08)

If you look at what that apple page is , it has a 2007 iphone welcome video, so last year not the new one. Also its probaly an apple worldwide template which has not been tailored to suit Australia. So a mistake.
http://movies.apple.com/movies/us/apple/iphone/2007/welcome/apple-iphone-welcome_i320x180.m4v

Sorry there is no way they would tell some store mangers either. No credibility whatsoever.-
 
The rumours of it being unlocked coming from around the world can't just be pushed aside, especially when an Apple spokesperson just says they're not married to the idea of shared revenue.

The argument that Apple would not want to lose the percentage they get on your contract may have stood true this time last year, but less than expected sales of the iphone has forced Apple to rethink that strategy.

I mean, surely they've awoken to the fact that they'll make more money increasing the price of the phone and selling it unlocked. More people will buy it. End of story.
 
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