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Control center security concern

I agree with the OP unlike almost everybody here. Why should you give up all the other useful toggles and music controls just because airplane mode can be toggled without a pin?! That's just dumb.

I also think apple should make you type the pin in to power off the device too!
Why would somebody that found my phone need to turn it off? The only reason I can see is of they are trying to keep it aka steal it.

And yes I know it's battery powered and when it dies then what? Well at least I could track it till it does die and I know the battery went dead and that the crook didn't turn my phone off to avoid getting caught!


At least make it optional for people that want it.
 
HarryAinslie said:
I would have thought, Activation lock would only work if the phone has an internet connection otherwise how would it receive the info to activate the activation lock! Therefore if the phone has been switched to Airplane mode, this action cannot be performed!
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If that were true, it'd be no different than remote wipe. You turn on activation lock while you still have possession of the phone. It takes effect when the device is wiped by the thief for resale, by preventing it from being reactivated.

Even if they couldn't go into airplane mode, they can just turn the phone off until they wipe it, dodging Find my iPhone. They can't dodge the activation lock if has been enabled, which it does by default.

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jeremiah239 said:
I also think apple should make you type the pin in to power off the device too!
Why would somebody that found my phone need to turn it off? The only reason I can see is of they are trying to keep it aka steal it.
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As long as I can hard reset the device in the case of a hang, a pin to prevent shutdown does nothing.
 
I think a nice feature would for when it's in Activation Lock mode, that iOS would ask the user for their local wifi password to get on the internet to "help" them unlock but it would really just phone home to the owner that it's been found and its coordinates.
 
Krevnik said:
If that were true, it'd be no different than remote wipe. You turn on activation lock while you still have possession of the phone. It takes effect when the device is wiped by the thief for resale, by preventing it from being reactivated.

Even if they couldn't go into airplane mode, they can just turn the phone off until they wipe it, dodging Find my iPhone. They can't dodge the activation lock if has been enabled, which it does by default.

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As long as I can hard reset the device in the case of a hang, a pin to prevent shutdown does nothing.
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Yeah that's true and there is always DFU mode BUT most people don't know how to hard reset or DFU and most phone thefts are not professional. Anything to slow them down helps. Like my buddy lost his phone 2 days ago and some guy took it and was at Hooters eating using the phone like it was his! This guy didn't even think of turning the phone off! Lol we tracked him down and found it luckily! But I bet 99% of the time nobody would think of a hard reset and if they do then oh well.
 
I can't see why airplane mode introduces a security concern in any way. First of all: Airplane mode is basically the same as turning the device off. Both can be done without entering the passcode.
Second: In IOS 7, without the correct passcode, the phone is completely bricked an useless. You cannot access private information and you cannot reinstall IOS and activate it again. Activation lock lives on activation servers at Apple and does not require the phone to be online in order to be initiated. Once you have enabled iCloud activation lock it basically couples your device fingerprint (imei, uuid, etc) to your iCloud account. You cannot activate the phone without entering your iCloud password.
Third: Once your device comes back online whether by disabling airplane mode, by rebooting the device or even after completely restoring a fresh installation of IOS all instructions you sent to the device through Find My iPhone are activated immediately. So if you sent the signal to remotely wipe your phone and to display a custom message the phone will be wiped and your message will be displayed the moment it comes back online.
Fourth: With IOS 7, you will still be able to remotely track your device after you remotely wiped the phone or after someone reinstalled IOS on it.
 
Daveoc64 said:
People are forgetting that the music controls have been moved into Control Center (from double tapping the home button), so you can't just get back to how things were in iOS 6.0 by disabling it.

Just to clarify, I'm talking about when something isn't currently playing.
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Theres definitely that. By not using control center on the lock screen you actually have less functionality available to you than you had before the introduction of the control center. That's unfortunate.
 
I don't understand why people want to access any sort of functionality from the lock screen. Doesn't that completely defeat the purpose of a lock screen??
 
Activation lock is active as long as Find my iPhone is running. Nothing needs to be "pushed" to the device in the event of it being stolen. As long as Find my iPhone is running, so is activation lock.

Ergo, if someone turns on airplane mode, or turns off the device, you won't be able to track it but they still won't be able to restore it or use it any way.
 
DDustiNN said:
I don't understand why people want to access any sort of functionality from the lock screen. Doesn't that completely defeat the purpose of a lock screen??
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I don't want anyone to read my messages, but I do want to change my brightness/turn on do not distrub.

Seems reasonable, no?
 
Who cares? A thief probably wouldn't even bother with airplane mode, they'll just turn it off until they are a safe distance to rip out the SIM card and throw it away.
 
A PIN or passcode on Airplane mode is useless. A thief could just simply remove the SIM card and accomplish the same thing.

That's why Apple's activation lock really is the only way to prevent thieves from wanting to steal the device... with the notion they can't activate it.
 
HarryAinslie said:
I would have though the iDevice thieves that are big in the game would rather stick it in airplane mode then shoving it into reset mode, rather than switching the device off, for the simple reason if the owner hits Activation lock whilst the idevice is switched off, then when the phone is switched back on it will then get a signal which will push the activation lock through to the device.
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FWIW, sounds like Activation Lock is enabled when the owner enables Find My iPhone. Are you thinking of them trying to enable "Lost Mode" remotely from icloud.com?

iOS 7 Release Notes said:
Activation Lock, a new feature of Find My iPhone, is turned on automatically when Find My iPhone is enabled on any device running iOS 7. Activation Lock requires users to enter their Apple ID and password to turn off Find My iPhone, sign out of iCloud, erase the device, or reactivate the device after an erase.

It’s important to do one of the following before transferring a device to a new user:
Sign out of iCloud.
Turn off Activation Lock in Settings > iCloud > Find My iPhone.
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aristobrat said:
FWIW, sounds like Activation Lock is enabled when the owner enables Find My iPhone. Are you thinking of them trying to enable "Lost Mode" remotely from icloud.com?
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I think my post clearly showed i didn't understand the full details with regards to activation lock! It's definitely gone up in my predictions. LoL

I thought in order for one to enable "Activation Lock" they had to trigger it themselves as and when they need to, i didn't realise it was enabled when the iDevice is initially set up.
 
HarryAinslie said:
I think my post clearly showed i didn't understand the full details with regards to activation lock! It's definitely gone up in my predictions. LoL

I thought in order for one to enable "Activation Lock" they had to trigger it themselves as and when they need to, i didn't realise it was enabled when the iDevice is initially set up.
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It was that way in previous betas, but now in beta 4, there's not toggle for Activation Lock, it's done automatically when "Find My iPhone" is turned on.
 
tymaster50 said:
I have Verizon so taking out the SIM card won't do much except disable LTE
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A Verizon phone on LTE loses all connectivity to 1X/3G/LTE networks when the SIM card is pulled. Try it. You can't make calls or access the data network at all when the SIM is missing.
 
Gav2k said:
I really think your missing my point! I personally do not want to switch the feature off because access to timers and calculator have made my life easier for work. But you cannot customise the panel so an unsuspecting user has this on by default could potentionally lose the ability to track a stolen device due to what I would call a security flaw
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passcode is not enabled by default...
 
i agree with gav...apple should allow us to customise control centre atleast partially...i just want cellular data toggle badly...:(
 
I think the best thing to do, is if you click on airplane mode it should pull up the passcode screen when the device is locked.
 
dictoresno said:
if you are so nervous about it, shut off its access from the lock screen. personally, i dont see the need to access it from the lock screen. ive been fine without it in ios6, no need for that immediate kinda access when locked in ios 7.
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I use it only for flashlight and calculator.

Would be nice to disable everything you don't need.
 
DDustiNN said:
I don't understand why people want to access any sort of functionality from the lock screen. Doesn't that completely defeat the purpose of a lock screen??
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I use my flashlight from the control center on the lock screen all the time and I silence my iPad without unlocking it now with the control center since I have my rotation lock set to the side switch.
 
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