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Controversial Cybersecurity Information Sharing Act Passes in Senate
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But who continues to vote for the same person? No, the faces change, the same platforms are stood upon but the new official follows the machine still.
I thought the same thing. Don't vote... so that way at least you can still get money from the companies that oppose this bill AND favor this bill.
How they are allowed NOT to vote is beyond me. Isn't it their JOB to vote?!?!?
Also, for seeing the same faces? There are people in the US that depend on those same faces to feed them, buy them phones etc. As long as the govt provides a free ride, the free riders will continue to vote for their providers.
Look this is a nation of a few responsible thinkers and doers, but not nearly enough. And the responsible thinkers generally dont turn out at the poles as they should to vote out the criminals running this great country. Idk the answer. Wish I did.
The actual bill is written in legalese.
Read this for an understanding of how the bill will be used:
https://www.emptywheel.net/2015/10/...-certificate-nsa-wanted-but-didnt-really-get/
Nice try. I wasn't old enough to vote in the last election. You are truly pathetic.
Maybe because the bill provides corps and govt immunity when spying on the public, Apple as a corp would have no claim.
Interestingly the question does arise that if Apple refuses to participate in Cisa or claims not to, what happens to the information that Apple shares with the Business Software alliance members (BSA) and the Computer and Communications Industry members (CCI) that want to participate in Cisa ?
Such as Adobe, IBM, Siemens, Google, ATT, Verizon, and facebook who is secretly lobbying for it while stating they are against it.
After all as soon as Cisa gets signed into law, participants will be bidding on a 50 million dollar contract with the govt....
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Most people don't know anything about this law. Most of these politicians probably haven't even read the law. The tech community needs to step it up financially much like the NRA does and make politicians accountable for supporting this legislation by running ads against them when election time comes.
Leave it to republicans and democrats to agree with job killing legislation but job producing legislation is not allowed.
Um, what? Did I ever say that? I said I couldn't vote because I WASN'T able to. It wasn't my choice. You're literally going nowhere with this.
Where would it be supposed to go?
The adults voted for CIA Barry because they are ****ing stupid. Two times! Just like they voted for Dubya the village idiot. Twice!
You do better and vote for Sanders or Paul.
Good luck
The tech community is divided on participating in Cisa, as there is a 50 Billion dollar govt contract bid to compete for when Cisa gets signed - I am sure that all the politicians know exactly what this law is about.
If apple, twitter and these other major companies feel this way then they should stop doing business with the government. Deny their purchase orders and the ability to create government verified accounts...
I don't think they do know what its about. They always underestimate the after effects. How many times have we already heard of politicians not even reading the fine print or understanding what was in the bill.
Nice analysis. Not sure how accurate, but I feel I have a better understandings of the objections.
Yes to this. Just imagine if Amazon had your data, totally encrypted, well they at least need your email address to contact you. But let's say your "file" was encrypted. How would you place an order you say? Well, a system put in place so that if you order something, Amazon "requests" your user data, from their system, and since you just placed an order, you give them 1 permission to read it. Once they read it to fulfill the order, that info gets encrypted again. So our information would be used only when we allow the companies to use it, even if we have given it to them.
This way, that information would not be available to anyone to just view without your explicit permission. Now, there is still an issue of how to track log files and order history, etc. But for many customers, a company who can protect ones private information will go along way to keep that customer loyal forever.
Revisiting this, thanks to the request of @LizKat
Looks like this passed the House as well. It apparently was slipped into the Appropriations bill that passed last night.
http://www.engadget.com/2015/12/16/congress-tucked-cisa-in-budget-bill/
Funnily enough, the same budget bill that had this was the same one that excluded Republican-backed efforts to block Net Neutrality. So we're getting the good and the bad with this budget.
BL.
Looks like this passed the House as well. It apparently was slipped into the Appropriations bill that passed last night.
http://www.engadget.com/2015/12/16/congress-tucked-cisa-in-budget-bill/
Funnily enough, the same budget bill that had this was the same one that excluded Republican-backed efforts to block Net Neutrality. So we're getting the good and the bad with this budget.
BL.
Thank you for this... looks like I will have to make some people pay for their mistakes. Where can I find out who voted for what?Revisiting this, thanks to the request of @LizKat
Looks like this passed the House as well. It apparently was slipped into the Appropriations bill that passed last night.
http://www.engadget.com/2015/12/16/congress-tucked-cisa-in-budget-bill/
Funnily enough, the same budget bill that had this was the same one that excluded Republican-backed efforts to block Net Neutrality. So we're getting the good and the bad with this budget.
BL.
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That gets tricky. That's why half the procedural votes on stuff like amendments are taken. The art of dodging a vote for some good-enough reason is one thing, and the art of producing evidence of more or less "voting for it before I voted against it" is another. They're both art forms in the modern Congress.
Thanks to @bradl for reviving the thread! So on to uncovering what else is in the 2000-page bill...