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'CoPilot Live' Turn-by-Turn GPS App Debuts in App Store
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Only if you live in North America: the 2 iPhone GPS apps with full-blown TTS are AT&T Navigator by Telenav and Gokivo.
Tom Tom supercharged?
I heard that the much anticipated Tom Tom will come with GPS boosting hardware. Is anyone experiencing insufficient GPS with this app? Do you think a boost would make a difference
I heard that the much anticipated Tom Tom will come with GPS boosting hardware. Is anyone experiencing insufficient GPS with this app? Do you think a boost would make a difference
I think the GPS dev's need to add the Holux or similar Bluetooth GPS receivers to their application support. This would open up these apps to iPod Touch users which I think could double their sales.
I used the Holux GPSlim236 with a WinMo PDA Phone (AT&T8525) and it was incredibly sensitive and could locate me in a basement the second I turned it on.
Just a thought.
I used the Holux GPSlim236 with a WinMo PDA Phone (AT&T8525) and it was incredibly sensitive and could locate me in a basement the second I turned it on.
Just a thought.
I have both Navigon and CoPilot and so far copilot is the winner, gps lock is quick and stays on, with Navigon I lost my gps connection multiple times on a 45 min. drive. The live search in copilot uses internet connection to find a POI and is able to find small shops and places. Navigon's POI database is no so upto date (atleast in my upstate NY area).
I am thinking of doing a full restore of my iPhone as suggested by Navigon to resolve the GPS signal issue, but so far after a day of use copilot is winner in my book.
I am thinking of doing a full restore of my iPhone as suggested by Navigon to resolve the GPS signal issue, but so far after a day of use copilot is winner in my book.
Downloading now
Well, after stumbling across this thread, I read some online reviews and am downloading now. This app seems to have everything and is as good as any competitor but cheaper. Will let you know how it works around Vancouver BC. Good pricepoint... been wanting a turn-by-turn since I got my iPhone last August, so glad I found one cheap enough for my wife to let me buy it!!!
Well, after stumbling across this thread, I read some online reviews and am downloading now. This app seems to have everything and is as good as any competitor but cheaper. Will let you know how it works around Vancouver BC. Good pricepoint... been wanting a turn-by-turn since I got my iPhone last August, so glad I found one cheap enough for my wife to let me buy it!!!
To both of you, let us know how it works well in your driving experience. I'm concerned about how reliable the directions are compared to its competitors. Thanks in advance!
Update: Might as well give it a try, so I bought it...
Well, after stumbling across this thread, I read some online reviews and am downloading now. This app seems to have everything and is as good as any competitor but cheaper. Will let you know how it works around Vancouver BC. Good pricepoint... been wanting a turn-by-turn since I got my iPhone last August, so glad I found one cheap enough for my wife to let me buy it!!!
Yes it should AFAIKI caved in and buying it now.
Does anyone know if it auto re-routes when you miss a turn?
Update: Might as well give it a try, so I bought it...
I purchased Copilot just today and I've had mixed results. In fact, the GPS sensitivity and map detail seem to be better on the iPhone's built-in Maps application (what I mean is Copilot's GPS accuracy and response seems slower than what I get on the Maps application). Perhaps Maps is using WiFi and cell tower triangulation to improve the GPS lock. Also, in my current location Copilot just displays a "near" street such-and-such message and no actual streets while Maps shows the full set of side streets for the complex where I'm located. It's not a new complex (a 15+ year-old mobile home park with paved and named streets). Maps shows all of these side streets, Copilot just shows that I'm off the main street in a completely blank area of the map.
I also had a few instances where the driving directions seem completely weird, like taking me in a circle around a block (multiple left turns followed by a right) instead of making a simple, single right turn to get on the proper route and street (and there were no one-way or right turn prohibitions). I suspect that what might be happening is that Copilot is making a circle-around when it can't determine it's true street location. This could even be a problem with the iPhone's GPS accuracy, perhaps Copilot isn't even at fault.
In any case, I certainly need more time with Copilot to determine just how well it can work, so don't take the previous "circle-around" comment as a confirmed issue.
I also had a few instances where the driving directions seem completely weird, like taking me in a circle around a block (multiple left turns followed by a right) instead of making a simple, single right turn to get on the proper route and street (and there were no one-way or right turn prohibitions). I suspect that what might be happening is that Copilot is making a circle-around when it can't determine it's true street location. This could even be a problem with the iPhone's GPS accuracy, perhaps Copilot isn't even at fault.
In any case, I certainly need more time with Copilot to determine just how well it can work, so don't take the previous "circle-around" comment as a confirmed issue.
I've been reading various forums and reviews (before I decided to buy this) and found out that tweaking your settings on the route will help you solve that, somehow the default route profile for the app is really awful. I haven't tested it yet since I'm still downloading it but the tweaking the settings should help.
Edit: Great it crashed my iTunes after downloading, have to redo it again geez
REMINDER: Do not download this app while your iPhone/iPod is conected, it will cause your iTunes to freeze. Make sure your iPhone is not connected especially if the app is about to be 100% fully finished downloaded. Tried and tested three times, I removed my iPhone and now it's working fine.
Here is some more information on my results with CoPilot and my iPhone 3GS. The first time I launched the app (or more precisely when I was doing the initial registration and setup and attempted a step back) CoPilot locked up and I had to restart my iPhone. Since then I've not had any crashes or lockups in the application. I also had one instance where the 2D map (route) showed a blank screen but was okay when I switched to the 3D map (maybe it lost GPS lock while I was trying to use the 2D map).
More troubling, however, is that I'm beginning to think that the GPS and map accuracy in CoPilot (and/or the iPhone) may only be in the 25 to 50 yard range which means that under some conditions you might be placed on the wrong street and given incorrect directions. It may be fine on the open highway but in my hands it SEEMS to have problems with densely-packed local streets. The odd thing is that when I switch out of CoPilot and launch the iPhone's built-in Maps application my location (in Maps) seems very accurate (maybe within 5 yards or better).
I don't have enough experience yet to know whether the accuracy is typically that "loose" but I'm beginning to think that CoPilot may only be able to place you NEAR-TO locations and not AT locations. It also seems that this causes more issues at the start of a route or when traveling slowly (walking or stopped in a car) since they may be using GPS sample smoothing and driving vectors to improve their placement on the maps.
Tomorrow may be the final test as I'm planning a fairly long drive to San Diego and I may be able to visit several points along the way from my iPhone's address book.
More troubling, however, is that I'm beginning to think that the GPS and map accuracy in CoPilot (and/or the iPhone) may only be in the 25 to 50 yard range which means that under some conditions you might be placed on the wrong street and given incorrect directions. It may be fine on the open highway but in my hands it SEEMS to have problems with densely-packed local streets. The odd thing is that when I switch out of CoPilot and launch the iPhone's built-in Maps application my location (in Maps) seems very accurate (maybe within 5 yards or better).
I don't have enough experience yet to know whether the accuracy is typically that "loose" but I'm beginning to think that CoPilot may only be able to place you NEAR-TO locations and not AT locations. It also seems that this causes more issues at the start of a route or when traveling slowly (walking or stopped in a car) since they may be using GPS sample smoothing and driving vectors to improve their placement on the maps.
Tomorrow may be the final test as I'm planning a fairly long drive to San Diego and I may be able to visit several points along the way from my iPhone's address book.
Okay, I've done a little more testing and I think I've confirmed my earlier suggestion that CoPilot is accurate to somewhere between 25 and 50 yards. Further, Wikipedia says that civilian GPS accuracy is typically around 15 meters with the best and newest devices capable of positioning within 5 meters. Thus, I'd estimate that when you combine map errors with a typical 15m GPS accuracy that a 25 to 50 yard range of uncertainty ("accuracy") is certainly understandable.
I guess what this means is that you can't really expect the starting and ending points on a route to be very close to their true locations. Thus, you'll need to "look around" and fix yourself on the street map before you blindly follow the initial step(s) in the CoPilot route (i.e. be somewhat wary of any turns that come within the first 100 to 200 feet of your route). The same is probably true for ending points and turns on the route -- the distances may be off by up to 50 yards (of course, YMMV).
I guess what this means is that you can't really expect the starting and ending points on a route to be very close to their true locations. Thus, you'll need to "look around" and fix yourself on the street map before you blindly follow the initial step(s) in the CoPilot route (i.e. be somewhat wary of any turns that come within the first 100 to 200 feet of your route). The same is probably true for ending points and turns on the route -- the distances may be off by up to 50 yards (of course, YMMV).
I probably only need to use a sat nav maybe a couple of times a month.
That influenced my decision to spend 35 euros on the product, rather than maybe a couple of hundred on tom tom.
The co pilot after sale seems to be on the ball too. I emailed them Saturday with a suggested improvement, and had a reply within a couple of hours that my suggestion had already been implemented in the next update due within four weeks.
I think this is a little like people who have been waiting for the perfect iphone.
They may never get one because there will always be some other feature they feel they need.
That influenced my decision to spend 35 euros on the product, rather than maybe a couple of hundred on tom tom.
The co pilot after sale seems to be on the ball too. I emailed them Saturday with a suggested improvement, and had a reply within a couple of hours that my suggestion had already been implemented in the next update due within four weeks.
I think this is a little like people who have been waiting for the perfect iphone.
They may never get one because there will always be some other feature they feel they need.
I caved in and buying it now.
Does anyone know if it auto re-routes when you miss a turn?
Yes it does. Works well too.
Cheers.
I was really disappointed in this app. For use in London I found that the routing was lousy. Car routes were taking me on heavily congested routes and walk/cycle routes were no where near direct. Also found that the gps was slow and laggy. I went back to using motion gps and using straight line navigation which I find works quite well in London.
I used the app all day yesterday.
Basically, the app is worth $35.00. It functions well as a basic no frills navigation system. If you don't want to spend the money on a Tom Tom or Garmin, this is the way to go.
Basically, the app is worth $35.00. It functions well as a basic no frills navigation system. If you don't want to spend the money on a Tom Tom or Garmin, this is the way to go.
You've forgot about Roadee
Nothing is cheaper than Roadee It's based on OpenStreetMap so no royalties for the maps have to be paid. And because of OpenStreetMap - it improves constantly
Nothing is cheaper than Roadee It's based on OpenStreetMap so no royalties for the maps have to be paid. And because of OpenStreetMap - it improves constantly
Wow, it's hard to argue with a $1.99 voice-guided map app. Reviews are really mixed on iTunes though. Would like to see more before parting with that almost two bucks.
Roaming Charges?
I am sorry, if this is a silly question, but can somebody answer me this:
I live in the UK and my I phone contract is with British Telecom.
If I buy the US version of this application and use it while visiting there,
would I need to connect to the AT&T network and thus need to pay roaming charges ?
Thanks.
I am sorry, if this is a silly question, but can somebody answer me this:
I live in the UK and my I phone contract is with British Telecom.
If I buy the US version of this application and use it while visiting there,
would I need to connect to the AT&T network and thus need to pay roaming charges ?
Thanks.
i have not seen the options for the lane assist and the speed limits...but then again, i haven't played around with it enough. i have not received calls while using the app, so don't know about losing routes.
it's fairly polished, just needs a bit more of the details worked out. it gets you to your destination and does that part well. all the other details that make it easy to use need to be worked out (like qwerty, and automatic addition of contacts into the app itself). for the price, i think it's a no-brainer.
I so missed CoPilot when I went iPhone
I used to use CoPilot on my Windows Mobile phones regularly, they were so much better than Tom Tom for WM (Particularly text-to-speech and map management.) Good to see them giving Tom Tom a further run for their money.
Even though I've already bought Navigon's s/w, I'm buying this one too. (I wish I knew, ALK, next time how about a press release?)
I used to use CoPilot on my Windows Mobile phones regularly, they were so much better than Tom Tom for WM (Particularly text-to-speech and map management.) Good to see them giving Tom Tom a further run for their money.
Even though I've already bought Navigon's s/w, I'm buying this one too. (I wish I knew, ALK, next time how about a press release?)