Run bc2 in window mode and run it side by side and compare the clock from there, GPU load is 0% in minimize mode
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Core 2/i5/i7 EXTREME CPU tweaks!!!
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Run bc2 in window mode and run it side by side and compare the clock from there, GPU load is 0% in minimize mode
Turbo boost is designed to keep the CPU at it max capacity @ 45 TDP and the peak wattage is 55 TDP watt for a few second, if there too much heat requirement are too high, it will automatically slowly clock it down ( in my case 35 watt TDP which is dual core specs, well that means 15 inch macbook pro heatsink can only handle dual core heat requirement)
I just tried it with Bad Company 2 on my 330M 15" and got about a 20-30 fps increase! Thanks!!
... what was it before?
Just tried bc2 (not full screen) and on the empty panama map the fps went from 55-65 (low settings) to 155-120. Is this for real?
I was getting about 35-48fps now it flops around 50-75 and when going through smoke it used to drop around 10fps now it stays around 29-30 this was on valaparaiso
not sure what the settings were but the order was
medium
medium
low
low
1x
1x
vsync off
hbao off
Same thing on all high /very high with 2x aa and 2x af 1920 x 1080 res with tf2, sometimes it drops to 10 fps with average of 60 fps but with throttlestop, now it drops to 50 with an average of 70-80 fps
Why would Intel build a Turbo Boost feature into their CPUs if this was going to cause them to burn out? That wouldn't be a good way to make money.
The thermal management of Intel processors at the hardware level is second to none. It is impossible for software, including ThrottleStop, to get an Intel CPU to run outside its design spec so it is not going to burn out your CPU. If your CPU gets too hot it will thermal throttle just as Intel intended. If this isn't enough to control the CPU temperature then at approximately 130C it will do a thermal shutdown to prevent the CPU from being permanently damaged.
It's great to read about the incredible performance boost some of you are seeing when using ThrottleStop while gaming. ThrottleStop is not overclocking your processors. It's simply encouraging it to run at its Intel designed and rated speed. Too many laptop manufacturers are misleading consumers by selling laptops that are being deliberately throttled to only a third of their rated speed when gaming. Too bad a similar fix doesn't exist for when you are running the Mac OS. Any application that tries to use the CPU and GPU at the same time is at risk of severe throttling.
Edit: The latest beta version adds a new C State monitoring panel with some new C1 and C3 Auto Demotion options. Try enabling them if you want to see a large increase in your 4K SSD Write speeds when plugged in. Some mechanical hard drives can also feel snappier with this tweak.
ThrottleStop 3.20 beta 2
http://www.mediafire.com/?4ug155h06073w5v
Some users like to use 2 profiles in ThrottleStop; one with turbo boost enabled and one without and then they set an Alarm so ThrottleStop will automatically switch to the second profile when the core temperature starts getting too hot. It will then automatically switch back to the original full speed profile once the core temperature has decreased. Not really necessary but it's a nice option to have.
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I actually experienced severly improved performance just with the c states. My question is, if i only activate the c states tweak, but leave the turbo mode or throttling alone, will i still experience a batterylife drop ? What about heat ? While i am interested in getting more speed, i want to keep the drain on the battery as low as possible as i am preparing my MBP for a long flight
I actually experienced severly improved performance just with the c states. My question is, if i only activate the c states tweak, but leave the turbo mode or throttling alone, will i still experience a batterylife drop ? What about heat ? While i am interested in getting more speed, i want to keep the drain on the battery as low as possible as i am preparing my MBP for a long flight
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I actually experienced severly improved performance just with the c states. My question is, if i only activate the c states tweak, but leave the turbo mode or throttling alone, will i still experience a batterylife drop ? What about heat ? While i am interested in getting more speed, i want to keep the drain on the battery as low as possible as i am preparing my MBP for a long flight
If you want to make the power requirement low as possible but keep c state off, you can set it to a low multiplier instead of turbo
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What if i simply turn off the c state and leave everything else at default ? I would get the same battery performance like before, but improved speed due to the c state?
What if i simply turn off the c state and leave everything else at default ? I would get the same battery performance like before, but improved speed due to the c state?
C1E states is not explained but I think it will only have a little effect on battery life
When on battery power and when you need to absolutely maximize your battery run time, I would recommend using as many of the C State features as possible. The deeper the sleep state, the less power the CPU will consume. The new C State panel in ThrottleStop 3.20 will help you learn more about this. The data can also be useful so you can keep an eye on what programs interfere with your CPU's ability to spend the maximum amount of time in the deepest C sleep states. Google Chrome reduces the system timer interval down to 1 ms for improved performance but this can interfere with C State residency time.
I don't own a Mac so you will have to do some testing to see what works best for you. Some of the C States don't save a huge amount of power so disabling them or limiting them for improved performance will be worth it to some users.
If you want to know more technical details about C States then download the datasheet.
http://www.intel.com/content/www/us...d-gen-core-family-mobile-vol-1-datasheet.html
I don't own a Mac so you will have to do some testing to see what works best for you. Some of the C States don't save a huge amount of power so disabling them or limiting them for improved performance will be worth it to some users.
If you want to know more technical details about C States then download the datasheet.
http://www.intel.com/content/www/us...d-gen-core-family-mobile-vol-1-datasheet.html
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Risk what? I haven't seen anyone running their Intel CPU beyond the Intel specifications.
If a laptop manufacturer is going to charge a premium for a high performance CPU, it's their responsibility to include a cooling solution that is able to cool the processor adequately so it can run at its rated speed.
Intel Thermal and Mechanical Design Guidelines
If Apple followed these guidelines, users wouldn't be seeing "massive" increases in frame rates when running ThrottleStop. The crazy thing is that if nnoob's 2720QM in the first post was properly cooled and not thermal throttling, it would be running even faster than ThrottleStop has it running. These are incredible CPUs but they are being held back by poor cooling.
I downloaded the program to monitor if the cpu is really being throttled.
I have a 2011 MBP 2720QM with 6750M graphic card.
When I play WoW on everything ultra setting. None of the Cmod Chip values are below 100 (I play it on full screen windows mode to check, it bounces between 20-30 multiplier). However comparing it to CPUZ it says I am running it on 800mhz.
So is my cpu being throttled? CPU-Z is correct in this case?
Edit: Ok, WoW isn't stressing GPU enough apparently. I tested it again with sc2 ultra setting and the game fps starts to drop to 10-20fps after 5mins. The moment I turn on TS it shoot back up to 60fps!!
I have a 2011 MBP 2720QM with 6750M graphic card.
When I play WoW on everything ultra setting. None of the Cmod Chip values are below 100 (I play it on full screen windows mode to check, it bounces between 20-30 multiplier). However comparing it to CPUZ it says I am running it on 800mhz.
So is my cpu being throttled? CPU-Z is correct in this case?
Edit: Ok, WoW isn't stressing GPU enough apparently. I tested it again with sc2 ultra setting and the game fps starts to drop to 10-20fps after 5mins. The moment I turn on TS it shoot back up to 60fps!!
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Yes it is being throttled because when you run throttlestop it runs a kernel mode driver that bypasses apple throttling methods
WoW isn't stressing GPU enough so it didn't get throttled apparently. Read on my edit post.
Nice, I'm going to try running Skyrim today. I haven't used my Boot Camp partition since installing it.