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And anybody who's had one of these knows HFCS and sugar don't taste the same:

Absolutely. Because of this thread I've gone through and checked foods in our house for HFCS, nothing there. Also no hydrogenated fats. There was a movement in the UK a couple of years ago that shamed MSG and brands that overly used them. Since then all the local chippies have stopped using MSG (and they taste much better for it).

Real Coke ftw, as it where.
 
HFCS Propaganda. Just plain scary and disturbing.

I went to Israel for 3 weeks, and my Coke tasted different there, too. (it had this weird ingredient on the label called "Sugar".)

Anyhow, got back to the States, and for 2 weeks I felt like (#*$ after every other meal that I ate. After my first stop to the "King" after being Stateside, I ended up owning the throne later on.

Anyhow, our diet here is the worst, and I'm "trying" to avoid the worst stuff. My million dollar question - can ANYBODY find any Ketchup WITHOUT HFCS in it? That has been my major (#$$-buster thusfar. Any ideas?
 
I tend to avoid soft drinks and sweets in general.

I have noticed that soft drinks sweetened with sugar down here in Mexico taste better then HFCS stateside. :cool:
 
I went to Israel for 3 weeks, and my Coke tasted different there, too. (it had this weird ingredient on the label called "Sugar".)

Anyhow, got back to the States, and for 2 weeks I felt like (#*$ after every other meal that I ate. After my first stop to the "King" after being Stateside, I ended up owning the throne later on.
If anything, you probably caught an illness on the plane. Three weeks isn't nearly long enough for your body to adjust to the degree your suggesting.
 
I thought that after my first trip in 07, but after my 2nd trip early this year, and the same issue -- I have my reservations.

I had NO issues out there, outstanding food, scenery, and women. Ahh, the women.

Maybe that was why I got sick -- withdrawals. :p
 
HFCS Propaganda. Just plain scary and disturbing.

I went to Israel for 3 weeks, and my Coke tasted different there, too. (it had this weird ingredient on the label called "Sugar".)

Anyhow, got back to the States, and for 2 weeks I felt like (#*$ after every other meal that I ate. After my first stop to the "King" after being Stateside, I ended up owning the throne later on.

Anyhow, our diet here is the worst, and I'm "trying" to avoid the worst stuff. My million dollar question - can ANYBODY find any Ketchup WITHOUT HFCS in it? That has been my major (#$$-buster thusfar. Any ideas?

there's some that sell ketchup without it. You just have to know where to shop. Any organic food store sells products without HFCS (maybe Whole Foods, TJ's too?). Considering the shelf-life of ketchup, you can order it online as well. I buy Muir Glen. Heinz makes one too, I believe, though I've never seen it.
 
IIRC Heinz ketchup here doesn't contain HFCS. But would anyone really import ketchup?
 
There must be a corn syrup marketing board, or some lobby group of some kind??

I think there is. I haven't seen one of these commercials for about a week, but I seem to recall there being small text at the bottom of the screen saying "paid for by so-and-so."

We're talking about that popsicle commercial right?
 
You can also find sugar Coke in ethnic stores, such as Mexican or South American stores that sell coke in bottles and have Spanish text on the labels. Then again, watch where it was bottled as they usually just use tap water from the local area where they were bottled.. and we all know to not drink the tap water in Mexico! :)

And for ketchup without HFCS, check the organic or world sections of your grocery store for imported sauces. If there are Trader Joe's or Whole Foods stores in your area, they would probably have some.
 
You can also find sugar Coke in ethnic stores, such as Mexican or South American stores that sell coke in bottles and have Spanish text on the labels. Then again, watch where it was bottled as they usually just use tap water from the local area where they were bottled.. and we all know to not drink the tap water in Mexico! :)
They also have a wonderful English sticker with nutritional facts.

What's wrong with the water again? I drink it all the time. Not that I don't buy enough Electropura as it is.
 
What's wrong with the water again? I drink it all the time. Not that I don't buy enough Electropura as it is.

Seems it's just a tourist thing. A quick search on google found an article saying the water table is close to the surface, and tends to be more polluted. But there's also info about how locals are usually fine because of a built-up tolerance to whatever is in it that puts off tourists.
 
I saw one of those commercials, and it pissed me off. Are they really trying to say that HFCS is good for you? I mean, I know there are worse things, but I never thought I'd ever see an advertisement supporting more consumption of HFCS.
 
I saw one of those commercials, and it pissed me off. Are they really trying to say that HFCS is good for you? I mean, I know there are worse things, but I never thought I'd ever see an advertisement supporting more consumption of HFCS.
Not at all. They're simply trying to dispel the myth that HFCS is worse for you than regular sugar.

I believe their words were "...and like sugar it's fine in moderation."
 
I believe their words were "...and like sugar it's fine in moderation."

(I'm not picking on you, just the stupid quote from the stupid ads.:))

The problem is, in the US, HFCS is in virtually everything and in surprisingly high amounts. USians consume waaaaaay more than they may realize, so I think a conscious effort to eliminate it from one's diet (and not simply replacing it with cane sugar) can only improve one's health. These ads are just one more bit of propaganda to add to all those bloody political ads.
 
(I'm not picking on you, just the stupid quote from the stupid ads.:))

The problem is, in the US, HFCS is in virtually everything and in surprisingly high amounts. USians consume waaaaaay more than they may realize, so I think a conscious effort to eliminate it from one's diet (and not simply replacing it with cane sugar) can only improve one's health. These ads are just one more bit of propaganda to add to all those bloody political ads.

agreed!
 
The problem is, in the US, HFCS is in virtually everything and in surprisingly high amounts. USians consume waaaaaay more than they may realize, so I think a conscious effort to eliminate it from one's diet (and not simply replacing it with cane sugar) can only improve one's health. These ads are just one more bit of propaganda to add to all those bloody political ads.
I agree. Consuming less sugar (be it sucrose, glucose, fructose, or HFCS) will lead to a healthier self. However, simply replacing HFCS with sucrose won't do anything, as most people believe.
 
I agree. Consuming less sugar (be it sucrose, glucose, fructose, or HFCS) will lead to a healthier self. However, simply replacing HFCS with sucrose won't do anything, as most people believe.

Yes it would. Junk food would become more expensive, so people would consume less there would be a reduction in HFCS/sugar related problems. The fact that HFCS is so cheap is a huge part of the problem.
 
Americans shop at your local food coop!

It all depends on where you shop. At my local Olympia Food Coop, it's a Non-GMO zone and none of the foods in the store have corn syrup. In fact, it wasn't until 2002 that they started including products that contained added sugar. Olympia Food Coop is part of a multi-state chain, and is a non-profit which keeps the prices low on the healthy organic, local, and natural foods.

See: http://www.olympiafood.coop/
 
The fact that HFCS is so cheap is a huge part of the problem.

I totally agree with this too. In the US, it can be cheaper to buy a canned meal loaded with HFCS, preservatives, and processed fats, then to create it from fresh and healthier ingredients. Or at least it is cheaper in the short term (in both time and money), and people always seem to only think short term.
 
Seems it's just a tourist thing. A quick search on google found an article saying the water table is close to the surface, and tends to be more polluted. But there's also info about how locals are usually fine because of a built-up tolerance to whatever is in it that puts off tourists.
I'd be more concerned about street food then the water.

YMMV on how much your gastrointestinal system can tolerate. I know that I'm used to it.
 
I don't get it. How much cheaper is corn syrup compared to sugar? The cost difference shouldn't result in a price increase on a can of Coke by more than $0.001 (guesstimate) or something.
 
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