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Could the iPad 2 Be Getting Light Peak?
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Stop acting like the EU has power. They whine and buy out the press, but that doesn't mean that any one single company is actually going to capitulate at the product level.
Some companies will, but Apple will not. Send me all the links you want, none of it matters, AT. ALL.
Apple will build their products however they want, and the ************ EU won't influence that one way or another.
Nor.Should.They.
YOU NEED to re-read the standard. It is for a universal charger that provides a MICRO usb plug outputing 5v/500mA. In order for apple to comply with that they have to provide a cable a type b micro-usb connector on the other end and either a recipient socket on the iphone or a micro-usb to 30 pin plug adaptor.
So they are NOT already in compliance.
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YOU NEED to re-read the standard. It is for a universal charger that provides a MICRO usb plug outputing 5v/500mA. In order for apple to comply with that they have to provide a cable with a type-A usb connector at one end and a type b micro-usb connector on the other end and either a recipient socket on the iphone or a micro-usb to 30 pin plug adaptor.
So they are NOT already in compliance.
"Above requirement also applies to detachable cables used as adaptor i.e. where the Micro-B is replaced by a proprietary plug"
direct from the technical annex defining the specification.
nice try, though.
You are frustrating, it's exactly what i'm referring to. an ADAPTOR. something not currently shipped with an iPhone. a block with a micro-usb socket on one side and a 30 pin apple plug on the other. what a numpty you are.
You are frustrating, it's exactly what i'm referring to. an ADAPTOR. something not currently shipped with an iPhone. a block with a micro-usb socket on one side and a 30 pin apple plug on the other. what a numpty you are.
Are you for real? You do understand what "replaced" means, right?
That line is talking about a cable that has a USB-A jack one side, and a PROPRIETARY CONNECTOR ON THE OTHER, replacing the Micro-B jack.
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I agree. The best for Light Peak and/or USB3 is to use it for external HDs and SSDs. The iPad already uses flash memory and equipping it with Light Peak is redundant. Besides, Apple still hasn't developed TRIM software to make SSDs practical. It's gonna be a hot spot dealio, because that's the cheapest way to employ the Apple Tax to make more money for the billionaires who run the joint.
bored now, i'm not even going to try to explain this as you are clearly limited in your understanding. Suffice to say if you do feel like comprehending this standard, take a step back and have a think about the concept of a universal charger. It's not just the phone that has to change.
Light Peak? Don't think so
I don't think that Apple would introduce Lightpeak without having it in their Macbooks/iMacs/Mac Pros first.
I rather think that this port will be in conjunction with the agreement that Apple signed in the EU to provide a single charger for all mobile devices (useable by all mobile device manufacturers), so this should rather be a Micro USB Port.
I don't think that Apple would introduce Lightpeak without having it in their Macbooks/iMacs/Mac Pros first.
I rather think that this port will be in conjunction with the agreement that Apple signed in the EU to provide a single charger for all mobile devices (useable by all mobile device manufacturers), so this should rather be a Micro USB Port.
bored now, i'm not even going to try to explain this as you are clearly limited in your understanding. Suffice to say if you do feel like comprehending this standard, take a step back and have a think about the concept of a universal charger. It's not just the phone that has to change.
Please, educate me. Seriously. I'm not trying to be snarky, I'm trying to understand how you can read the specification and come to any conclusion other than the one I'm presenting.
I'm not talking about what makes sense, or what would seem logical.
I'm talking about the actual specification, as defined in the Technical Annex.
The whole point of Light Peak is the consolidation of ports. It actually makes the most sense on an iPad. With support for HDMI out (through an adapter of course, which Apple seems to love), backwards compatibility with USB and blazing fast transfer rates, it seems like an ideal successor to the dock connector (which doesn't even support digital video out). If the new MBP's get Light Peak I could easily see it coming to the iPad too, maybe as an extra port for now as speculated here, but eventually it would be part of a new dock connector.
What the standard calls for is that any data enabled phone. I believe their way of defining a smartphone should be chargeable from a universal charger. In this spec they refer to a universal charger having a micro-USB plug. A USB type A plug and 30 pin plug connector cable as shipped with an iPhone could not mate with said adaptor. So either on the shipped cable they provide a microusb socket or add an adaptor or add a microusb socket on the phone itself in order to comply. On the other side of the equation with each power adaptor they ship the will have to provide a cable with a micro-USB plug in order to be able to charge any other phone that meets this standard.
Without reading that annex in it's entireity. I'm on an iPhone. I have to assume that line means that a phone may be shipped with a cable that will mate with said universal charger and can have whatever proprietary connector it likes on the phone side.
Hope that clears it up.
What the standard calls for is that any data enabled phone. I believe their way of defining a smartphone should be chargeable from a universal charger. In this spec they refer to a universal charger having a micro-USB plug. A USB type A plug and 30 pin plug connector cable as shipped with an iPhone could not mate with said adaptor. So either on the shipped cable they provide a microusb socket or add an adaptor or add a microusb socket on the phone itself in order to comply. On the other side of the equation with each power adaptor they ship the will have to provide a cable with a micro-USB plug in order to be able to charge any other phone that meets this standard.
Without reading that annex in it's entireity. I'm on an iPhone. I have to assume that line means that a phone may be shipped with a cable that will mate with said universal charger and can have whatever proprietary connector it likes on the phone side.
Hope that clears it up.
Again, not trying to be snarky -- but I think you should read the entire specification.
The specification clearly talks about a cable with one end having a USB-A jack and the other end having a proprietary connector -- as you mentioned in your second paragraph. That's exactly what the iPhone/iPad/iPod ship with.
The charger needs to have a USB-A port, again, exactly what the Apple chargers already have.
Dreams...
I don't think it is a LightPeak connector... because the support circuitry to provide the interface is not available in a low-power form that can be easily integrated into an iPad. It would eat up too much battery time and space in the case. Now if Apple somehow designed the circuitry into their next ARM SoC that replaces the A4, then I could see Apple bringing LightPeak to every iOS device in the future. And I don't see USB or a file system coming to Apple iOS devices anytime soon. Steve is not ready to give up that control. Eventually the market place may push Apple to do it, but there will need to be some serious tablet competition from Androids and HP Web OS. It would be nice if there was official Apple supported pen input for some functions under iOS but I am not holding my breath on that either. Steve always leaves customers hanging with some feature so you will have to buy the next model that comes out.
I don't think it is a LightPeak connector... because the support circuitry to provide the interface is not available in a low-power form that can be easily integrated into an iPad. It would eat up too much battery time and space in the case. Now if Apple somehow designed the circuitry into their next ARM SoC that replaces the A4, then I could see Apple bringing LightPeak to every iOS device in the future. And I don't see USB or a file system coming to Apple iOS devices anytime soon. Steve is not ready to give up that control. Eventually the market place may push Apple to do it, but there will need to be some serious tablet competition from Androids and HP Web OS. It would be nice if there was official Apple supported pen input for some functions under iOS but I am not holding my breath on that either. Steve always leaves customers hanging with some feature so you will have to buy the next model that comes out.
Parts of what you are saying are interesting and I am not against something like that. But it seems that the direction Apple is headed is in apps being self aware of file types that relate to them as apposed to the user doing the work like in archaic file systems.
If they do expand in this area I would be a bit surprised. I think they have many other things on their radar prior to what they have already designed as such. I wouldn't expect anything in iOS 5. The big thing I am hoping for is a new notification system and continuous client type integration between iOS devices, Macs with 10.7 Lion, and a new MobileMe. I think those are safe bets!
Hurry up and release iPad 2!!! My wallet is bursting to buy it. . .I've held off iPad for 2 months now and it's felt like years.
Sure, introduce a port for which there are no peripherals available
and is not backward compatable with millions of peripherals
from the last 10 years. Magic.
Now, chant after me. USB3 is dead, USB3 is dead, USB3 is dead...
and is not backward compatable with millions of peripherals
from the last 10 years. Magic.
Now, chant after me. USB3 is dead, USB3 is dead, USB3 is dead...
No, of course not. But where to leaks come from that get reported? Where do the leaks come from that generate development of prototype cases, which generated this very thread? I just wouldn't be surprised if there is occasional misdirection on product releases to confuse which ones are true and which are not.
Anyone thought of the possibility of it not being a port but perhaps a relocated home button?
It can't be removed completely, but with the introduction of the gestures they want to scale back, removing buttons from the front but still keeping the button for the obvious reasons that a hardware button is still needed. Move it to a side
It can't be removed completely, but with the introduction of the gestures they want to scale back, removing buttons from the front but still keeping the button for the obvious reasons that a hardware button is still needed. Move it to a side