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Could the iPad 2 Be Getting Light Peak?
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Wtf are you talking about? Sounds like 15 years down the drain.
Apple doesn't give a **** about the EU, and neither should anyone else.
Uh...no they don't. I use a free app to control my tv box and need nothing else at all.
Look, two things are absolutely clear on the face of the EU document. First, it's completely voluntary. A specific list of companies AGREED to follow it. Second, the device, itself, does not need USB. it is perfectly acceptable to use cables with USB on one end. This may not be progress, but it is what it is. No iPhones or iPads will be changing to satisfy this EU program. They are already in compliance. Since the documents are absolutely clear and leave no room for interpretation, you will have to forgive us for not deferring to your 15+ years of business analysis experience (what is a "business analyst," btw?)
Uh...no they don't. I use a free app to control my tv box and need nothing else at all.
Then you're not using IR. Which is great for the subset of devices that you can control without IR (like Apple TV, for example, or your TV box), but the vast majority of devices use IR, which is what was being suggested.
Hey arn,
as you know, the EU demands that manufacturers implement USB-Ports so that the end-user can charge devices like the iPhone with a single charger. The iPad is based on the iPhone and iPod Touch, and it would be inefficient for Apple to support different chargers for different devices.
It is USB, not LP.
Have a great day!
You should read those press releases more closely.
"Commission welcomes new EU standards for common mobile phone charger "
maybe you should read what he says
and it would be inefficient for Apple to support different chargers for different devices.
Really?
Here is the list, of the manufacturers, which agreed to implement the universal charger standard in 2011 (after pressure from Verheugen):
Apple, Emblaze Mobile, Huawei Technologies, LGE, Motorola, NEC, Nokia, Qualcomm, Research in Motion (RIM), Samsung, SonyEricsson, TCT Mobile (ALCATEL mobile phones), Texas Instruments and Atmel.
From:
http://ec.europa.eu/enterprise/sectors/rtte/chargers/index_en.htm
@All Trolls: Do not waste my time!
They already have multiple chargers.
Here's a test.
Try charging an iPad with a current iPhone charger.
Or, if you'd rather, try charging an iPad with a specification-meeting EU universal charger.
The iPhone charger will be half the speed of the iPad charger.
iPad charger: 10W
EU spec max: 7.5W
iPhone/iPod charger: 5W
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Verheugen, the responsible EU-commissioner forced the industry to implement the universal charger standard. You can read it on the internet in newspapers.
So what. The point is Apple doesn't have to do anything because:
1) there is no law requiring ANYONE to do anything
2) Apple is already in compliance with this VOLUNTARY program
You ignore both these points and keep talking about Verheugen. The point is the EU voluntary standard has nothing to do with this mystery port.
oh like they don't currently do with an iPad Charger versus an iPhone/iPod charger.
Maybe they should just make one universal charger that does every ipod, iphone, ipad, macbook or macbook pro?
Seriously Apple's scale is huge they can afford to provide separate chargers/connectors. The only advantage currently provided by the 30 pin connector is that people can re-use their cables if they owned another iOS device before. iPads don't fit speaker docks/car adaptors.
Personally i'd like to see them drop the 30pin connector on the iPad and replace it with something more in keeping with iPad's/Macbooks future. ie. a host connection, not a slave. capable of driving hdmi/display port, digital audio out/in, peer to peer networking like firewire or ethernet. 1 connector to rule them all, with a zillion adaptors for all those legacy ports.
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You ignore that Apple said, that they implement it, and that came after Verheugens "message" to the manufacturers. Combine this with the fact, that it is inefficient for Apple to support at least two different chargers.
Okay. You're having difficulty reading posts with more than one point, apparently, so here's just one:
Apple already has two chargers. The iPad and iPhone chargers are different, and that's just for current products. The legacy chargers are also different.
Please show me where apple said, anywhere, that they changed anything in response to this "message.". They are already in compliance. All the idevices are. They all use chargers with a USB connection.
And they do use two different chargers, just because of electrical current requirements, but, anyway, both chargers are in compliance.
The agreed industry standard you both are referring to is to provide the facility for each mobile phone sold in the EU to be chargeable by a micro usb plug. This can be implemented via a micro usb socket on the device or via an adaptor that the vendor ships with the device.
You are right in saying that Apple hasn't said how they will meet this request from the EU, but they have signed up to the agreement, so we wait to see whether it's an additional usb socket (ugly) or a thrown in adaptor (uglier).
The agreed industry standard you both are referring to is to provide the facility for each mobile phone sold in the EU to be chargeable by a micro usb plug. This can be implemented via a micro usb socket on the device or via an adaptor that the vendor ships with the device.
You are right in saying that Apple hasn't said how they will meet this request from the EU, but they have signed up to the agreement, so we wait to see whether it's an additional usb socket (ugly) or a thrown in adaptor (uglier).
As has been said several times in this thread, they don't need to do anything to the package that they ship currently. The EXACT charging solution provided by apple is already in compliance:
1 - (charger) local mains->USB-A port
2 - (cable) USB-A jack->Apple Dock connector jack
They don't need a new port, a new adapter, a new cable, a new charger.
NOTHING needs to change.
Hmm, I am forced to agree with some others. Would you have posted this in 2002?
"Crestron killer" and "ultimate remote" are NOT going to be based on IR. Sorry, boys.
You need real control to catch Crestron or even to beat Harmony, and that means wired with compatible components. Now, the iPad could make a Crestron killer if it is wired into a system, considering you would only need the base model for such a use, so it undercuts a similar-sized Crestron module by what, $2000? But it would have to be immobilized and wired with full two-way RS232 control. Not have a IR port on the top.
And frankly, I don't want a 1.5lb remote to point at anything. I have big remotes and big hands, but the iPad is ridiculous for such a thing.
They must really be having fun at Apple with this. Watching all these guesses as a result of some likely intentional misdirection. Maybe this is Steve's homepage, and the "laughter is good medicine" helps him hopefully feel better.
oh like they don't currently do with an iPad Charger versus an iPhone/iPod charger.
Maybe they should just make one universal charger that does every ipod, iphone, ipad, macbook or macbook pro?
Don't be silly. It should handle the Mac Pro too, just in case.
I don't think Steve or Apple is behind "orange-byte".
What majority of devices? You mean ancient crap without wifi or any internet connection at all?
Apple couldn't be less interested. WiFi capable devices are all that matter. Whether you agree or not, its the truth.
Never ceases to amaze me how people think Apple will innovate to go backwards. It never happens of course, but some people don't give up.