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"turn over profits from devices that infringed Apple patents would stifle innovation"

How things are twisted inside out these days...
 
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Once again, "this will stop innovation." Bill Gates' favorite terms. Actually, the best thing they could have done would have been to follow the court order and split up into OS, Office and Hardware divisions. It wasn't even good for Microsoft. They developed the bad habits of sitting on their behinds as the world changed around them. If they gain anything like the centrality they had in 1997, it will be because they started innovating again-- after the old management left. You probably have a point about software patents, but the patents were put in there to encourage innovation. It's in the Constitution. Design patents create the ability to keep hold of your invention for a time. In the world of Google's Android, what is done that is original is done by Google. And everybody but Samsung is near, or under, break-even. And you can't argue that Samsung didn't copy, and there was nothing unconscious about it. They put out a rival for the iPhone very fast, no? How much did they spend on R&D? Not much, that was all done by Apple and Google.
 
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Samsung having a rough time at the moment. Falling sales, falling profits, falling marketshare, the fail that was yesterday's Note announcement, the failed iPhone copy that is the Galaxy S6...

IMO the copycat company deserves all they get. I hope they crash and burn and someone more deserving of the top spot takes their place.
 
We'll probably be seeing 'Samsung Touch' (Force Touch) to go along with Samsung Pay and the Galaxy S7+ pretty soon. If Apple does indeed do a Rose Gold iPhone then also expect that to be one of the 'all new' colors of the Galaxy S7 in January as well.

It's interesting that they're dragging their feet on paying the measly $400M after they've already made billions from what they copied anyway. It's not like everyone doesn't already know they're a copying company, pay up, make your money, and move on.
 
Samsung having a rough time at the moment. Falling sales, falling profits, falling marketshare, the fail that was yesterday's Note announcement, the failed iPhone copy that is the Galaxy S6...

IMO the copycat company deserves all they get. I hope they crash and burn and someone more deserving of the top spot takes their place.
Thank you, and they fully deserve the continued decline which they'll experience, as people turn either to other Android device manufacturers, or to Windows phones, if not to Apple devices.
 
Thank you, and they fully deserve the continued decline which they'll experience, as people turn either to other Android device manufacturers, or to Windows phones, if not to Apple devices.

They are not exactly helping themselves with yesterday's event, it looked like it was thrown together at the last minute and the Note 5 being excluded from Europe is not exactly going to help, people are already complaining on Samsungs UK page.
 
Samsung Pay. I get it now ;)...

Well played, Sir. Well Played...

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The damage is done. Samsung already stole a large part of the smartphone market and made billions from the infringing products and their successors. An empty victory for Apple I'm afraid.

On the bright side of things, Samsung is now officially the Apple copy-cat.

Despite everyone doing the same thing as them.
 
And Apple is still presumably refusing to pay Ericsson for the continuous use of it's important patents whilst stealing their technology in effect..

And so it goes on and on....

In fact it is claimed they have till December to reach an agreement or the court cases start over the matter in the US, UK, Germany and the Netherland. And Apple won't win. The tone round here will of course blame Ericsson then.... just like blaming Samsung.
I think Samsung copied with one phone model and it's app drawer design, that was it. Meanwhile other makers copy Apple far more but funnily enough they aren't big competition to Apple so they never get taken to court by Apple.

Xiaomi also refused to pay Ericsson last year and so Ericson had an injunction against the import of there devices into India slapped on them. And Xiaomi are big enough to have dented Samsung's market share in China.

Anyway if I was Samsung I would just pay the 500 mil and move on, change the strategy and push Android forward to gain more market share.
When you're dealing with a corporation that runs crying to the President when it loses in court it's not worth the hassle IMO.
 
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good news for Apple ... how funny is it they use the excuse paying the fine will stifle innovation what a sad excuse
 
And Apple is still presumably refusing to pay Ericsson for the continues use of it's important patents whilst stealing their technology in effect..

And so it goes on and on....

In fact it is claimed they have till December to reach an agreement or the court cases start over the matter in the US, UK, Germany and the Netherland. And Apple won't win. The tone round here will of course blame Ericsson then.... just like blaming Samsung.
I think Samsung copied with one phone model and it's app drawer design, that was it. Meanwhile other makers copy Apple far more but funnily enough they aren't big competition to Apple so they never get taken to court by Apple.

Xiaomi also refused to pay Ericsson last year and so Ericson had an injunction against the import of there devices into India slapped on them. And Xiaomi are big enough to have dented Samsung's market share in China.

Anyway if I was Samsung I would just pay the 500 mil and move on, change the strategy and push Android forward to gain more market share.
When you're dealing with a corporation that runs crying to the President when it loses in court it's not worth the hassle IMO.

That korean copycat company has a long history of theft of others IP. They've turned it into an art form. Pioneer, Sharp, Sony, Kodak, Dyson, Apple, Motorola, Microsoft, Fisher Paycal, and on and on and on the list goes. When they are sued, they countersue on minor infringements, then when they lose, they appeal, appeal, appeal, all the while they keep making billions from stolen IP. This blatant criminal business practice will kill off innovation, kill off competition and kill localised manufacturing, and everything will be made in korea. Only a mindless fool would cheer this criminal organisation on, and most of them come here and haunt this site.
 
good news for Apple ... how funny is it they use the excuse paying the fine will stifle innovation what a sad excuse

Exactly. It's like Samsung didn't learn anything.

The court said that Samsung copied - which stifles innovation. Who wants to innovate if someone will just copy you? So paying the fine actually HELPS innovation by stopping the copying.

It's amazing how people can twist things 180 degrees with a straight face.
 
That korean copycat company has a long history of theft of others IP. They've turned it into an art form. Pioneer, Sharp, Sony, Kodak, Dyson, Apple, Motorola, Microsoft, Fisher Paycal, and on and on and on the list goes. When they are sued, they countersue on minor infringements, then when they lose, they appeal, appeal, appeal, all the while they keep making billions from stolen IP. This blatant criminal business practice will kill off innovation, kill off competition and kill localised manufacturing, and everything will be made in korea. Only a mindless fool would cheer this criminal organisation on, and most of them come here and haunt this site.
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