How many people defending apple would be okay if their Macs could only install apps from the mac app store? There is no doubt that Apple is already moving that direction, and they sure would love to collect 30% of all Apps installed on your machine...
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Court Rules Apple Can Be Sued for Monopolizing iPhone App Market
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And Sony, Nintendo and Microsoft. After all their consoles are a "monopoly"...
Apple's initial choice on the iPhone 1 was no native and only web Apps. But enough complained and lobbied that later Apple eventually introduced the AppStore. I believe this huge 30% profit intake was not even foreseen by Steve Jobs.
If initially everyone argued like you the whole phone App market would not have developed and you all would be sitting with only web apps on your iPhone.
Apple advertises post-PC while the iPad sales stagnate or even fall. Like it or not for real productivity and innovation more freedom of choice is needed on iOS just like it exist on Mac and PC.
The iPhone and iPad are a powerful small personal computer there is nothing that should inherently limit what software the user loads like it is the case today.
Brendu, you saved me from having to make my own comment. Your edit section is spot on.
Straw man. We are not talking about Mac OS, we're talking about iOS.
One has been built as an open system since the beginning, the other has been a closed system since the beginning. They're totally different beasts.
Android apps can be downloaded places other than Google Play?
I agree this is nuts, unfair, ridiculous. I hope Apple smoke them.
It has nothing to do with security Apple want their 30%.
Google play is not a monopoly. You can install apps from other similar services.
Amazon app store is an alternative. There are several others as well.
Microsoft windows store for example, is an almost barren land. For xbox/pssystems, rules are a bit different.
You can buy physical copies of games, so if a developer doesn't want to use their store, he can just sell the games physically in stores, or sell online activation codes directly.
Also in order to develop to xbox or PS in the first place, a developer has to use their appropriate development kits. And those aren't free to use and develop, and they don't hand them over to anyone, unlike the development kits to ios/android.
Nintendo situation is a completely different one. Nintendo are completely controlling the whole environment. From games to consoles. There are no third party developers without nintendo consent, and it is not like a developer can just license up a nintendo development kit, make a game and sell it to anyone. His game actually has to go though nintendo first to see if it "fits" their eco-system.
I'm so surprised at all the hate towards this ruling.
Its my phone I want whatever apps I want on it. Apple pulls apps it does not approve of. They are tyrannical. This is good for the consumer. If you don't want apps from other sources, then don't buy apps from other sources.
Its my phone I want whatever apps I want on it. Apple pulls apps it does not approve of. They are tyrannical. This is good for the consumer. If you don't want apps from other sources, then don't buy apps from other sources.
no I understand fully, I'm with Apple on this. And the outcome is going to take years to decide.
Good. I hope the suit is wildly successful.
Apple's censorship is enabled by the app store, and is fundamentally immoral.
Apple's censorship is enabled by the app store, and is fundamentally immoral.
How are they preventing you from having whatever apps you want? You can fire up Swift and code up anything your heart desires and put it on your phone.
This. The closed ecosystem is what makes apple devices secure. I can trust my family's iDevices to be free from malware without having to install antivirus software or cleaning their systems once a month.
Most of my apps are from the mac app store. There some that aren't of course and that's a risk.
Some apps bypass that by offering out of app store subscriptions, selling via a website connected with a userid to the app, etc etc.
For example netflix pays nothing to apple for using the app, because you don't subscribe through apple, and you don't purchase the app (unless you are paying through iTunes and your apple id).
One of the reasons apple are taking a cut in general (also google play are taking 30% cut, not just apple), is because they are managing the financial part for you including fighting chargebacks, scams etc.
If you are setting payment through a website, you need to develop it, protect it, make arrangements for payment options (credit card, PayPal etc etc) which also take their own cuts, etc. Being lazy has its costs.
But this would take significantly less time and energy away from your life, and who wants that?
Let them sue. If Apple is no longer going to create back doors for intelligence agencies, they're not going to rewrite iOS code so people can download their crappy apps.
The appstore is what made the iPhone the killer device. Yes Apple could open up iOS, but I don't want that to water down the AppStore and affect me.
There was an open market on Windows Mobile back in the day and it was a wasteland.
Each App from the AppStore carries the same risk as form any other source. That Apple reviews them helps only very little as can be seen by all the many cases that already slipped thru Apple review. It is quite easy to make an app that behaves well in Apple's review and only starts it's secret things when it is int the wild.
The cases where Apple retrospectively removed apps using "private" APIs after weeks or months highlights very clearly how minimal their review is. I would expect any simply automatic check to flag and filter out private API use fully and automatically.
Increased security thru an AppStore review or even this developer ID signing is just wishful thinking; also known as praying.
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Haters gone hate: Again, what is the problem to allow others a choice, you do not need to enable the external developer option and could continue to load exclusively from the AppStore!?
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Just relying on the AppSstore helps you nothing in that regards. Each download from the AppStore can be equally malicious. Also any 0day security bug in some web view and such component can and has already lead to remove code execution directly form within Safari or even iMessage.
"The decision reverses a 2013 ruling that dismissed the lawsuit, originally filed in 2012. The case, Pepper et al v. Apple Inc., alleges that by not letting users purchase apps from third-party sources, there was no price competition, leading to higher app prices."
How cheap are people that they're complaining about a 79p piece of software?
How cheap are people that they're complaining about a 79p piece of software?
My big thing with this is security. While I understand that Apple may limit certain apps and in turn "hurt" some developers, the fact that they are able to vet everything before it's released makes the platform safer in my opinion. Without this, people will be able to get apps from anywhere and WILL be more susceptible to malware.
When I owned my Android phones, I would sometimes download apps (carefully after making sure I reviewed them as best as I could) and still, my phone would lag and battery life would go down from an app constantly running in the background for some reason. When I owned the iPhone 6, I used a jailbreak on it. Again, the app store was great but the phone ran poorly and I had to get rid of the Jailbreak.
I realize that not everyone may have had this experience but I did and I would rather Apple keep their App store /system CLOSED. If people want something different, either jailbreak your phone or buy an Android. The security portion alone will be enough to get this thrown out.
When I owned my Android phones, I would sometimes download apps (carefully after making sure I reviewed them as best as I could) and still, my phone would lag and battery life would go down from an app constantly running in the background for some reason. When I owned the iPhone 6, I used a jailbreak on it. Again, the app store was great but the phone ran poorly and I had to get rid of the Jailbreak.
I realize that not everyone may have had this experience but I did and I would rather Apple keep their App store /system CLOSED. If people want something different, either jailbreak your phone or buy an Android. The security portion alone will be enough to get this thrown out.