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Court Rules Police Can Force Users to Unlock iPhones With Fingerprints, But Not Passcodes
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That would be fine. As much as Apple dislikes configurations like this, it would be interesting to let the user pick what happens. Wipe, Disable Touch ID, or call 911? Lots of possibilities.
(Obviously the 911 call is not appropriate in the article's scenario
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I've actually been wondering about this, if a cop couldn't just forcibly press your finger to the button to unlock your phone and go on a fishing expedition or delete the recording you just made of them.
If I shut the phone off, I lose the ability to record the interaction, which is for my protection and that of the officer. Most cops are decent people, but Youtube is rife with examples of innocent stops that went horribly wrong because of a thug with a badge. Now that I know courts are allowing forcibly using my finger to unlock my phone, I will disable fingerprint ID unfortunately, and just use my nine digit number password. I can type it very quickly, but it will be difficult enough to prevent anyone from getting into the phone, at least while it matters.
I don't even speed. I've never had so much as a parking ticket. If a cop is trying to get into my phone, something has gone very, very wrong, and it won't be because of anything I did. This decision is bad news.
If I shut the phone off, I lose the ability to record the interaction, which is for my protection and that of the officer. Most cops are decent people, but Youtube is rife with examples of innocent stops that went horribly wrong because of a thug with a badge. Now that I know courts are allowing forcibly using my finger to unlock my phone, I will disable fingerprint ID unfortunately, and just use my nine digit number password. I can type it very quickly, but it will be difficult enough to prevent anyone from getting into the phone, at least while it matters.
I don't even speed. I've never had so much as a parking ticket. If a cop is trying to get into my phone, something has gone very, very wrong, and it won't be because of anything I did. This decision is bad news.
This is a good idea but could also potentially hose yourself on accident, if you say reach into your pocket to grab the phone and the 'wrong finger' hits the sensor for example. Poof.
"Innocent until proven guilty" is the cornerstone of our criminal justice system. The fifth amendment is part of our Constitution, and is meant to protect people from self-incrimination.
If you think those two things are worthless and you don't agree with them, and that efforts to uphold them unilaterally for all citizens is a way to "protect criminals" then may I suggest you not live in the United States?
Don't grab your phone by the home button, and this won't be a problem. It's not like Touch ID is instant. It takes a few seconds, and that's by design.
Plenty of other ways to get that data. We've been selling a product to law enforcement all over the world since 2008 that pulls all of your iPhones call logs, text messages, pictures, emails, web history, app data, voice mails, and more.
Honestly, criminals don't generally think "Oh quick, gotta turn off my phone now." They've generally got other things they're dealing with.
And digging in your pocket as an officer approaches you is a great idea if you're looking to get shot.
This is a great idea. All it needs to do is immediately require a passcode when you use that particular finger. Problem solved.
While that is true, most of the time you know if the police are coming and could turn the phone off.
What the police have and what is stored on your iPhone through the finger sensor/imaging I don't believe are the same things.
The police does not have a multi dermal layer skin reading that is used to create a code. The police have an ink impression on the ridges of the outer layer of the skin on your finger.
This is like saying they have your hat which holds your head so you have to divulge all of what is inside your head and you don't have a right to remain silent because after all, they have your hat.
Police, knock this baloney off. They should be going out of their way to preserve and stand up for our rights and freedoms, instead they push the limits as often as they can.
The police does not have a multi dermal layer skin reading that is used to create a code. The police have an ink impression on the ridges of the outer layer of the skin on your finger.
This is like saying they have your hat which holds your head so you have to divulge all of what is inside your head and you don't have a right to remain silent because after all, they have your hat.
Police, knock this baloney off. They should be going out of their way to preserve and stand up for our rights and freedoms, instead they push the limits as often as they can.
It doesn't work like that. If you are not a criminal, the police have no need to see your data. That's why warrants exist.
Even better, a "distress finger" that unlocks a fake environment containing some harmless data.
True, that would keep the cops from doing unreasonable searches in the first place.
It would be nice if they listen, but were seeing a trend where cops do break the law.
Probably is. I tried registering a nipple once, and I was shocked to learn that it worked. It did, that is, until it got cold.
Even if your not a criminal do you want strangers going through your iPhone and logging everything they find?
Except where it says "Touch ID or Passcode" at the top of the screen after swiping.
yeah except the whole getting arrested thing -- theyre not big on letting you do things to your phone as part of that.
You could always use the base of the tip of your thumb, and not the actual part of the print registered. Just tested that. Five times and WHOOPS SORRY OFFICER it needs a passcode. Or do that before recording, as you can access your camera without unlocking. That way once you're done, you still need the passcode.
what absolute nonsense. first, you can disable it if you so wish. second, it requires passcodes after certain periods, as mentioned in the article you didnt read.