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Craig Federighi Acknowledges Confusion Around Apple Child Safety Features and Explains New Details About Safeguards
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I'm reminded of an alternative reality described in a black & white Super Bowl commercial many years ago from a company that has so changed, I can longer recognize
He didn't win me over but rather confirmed by long pauses and stuttering that Apple is up to something. Not trustworthy at all.
Let's see... Apple scanning a table of unique hashes (numbers that can't be reconstructed into anything) against hashed photos (also numbers that can't be reconstructed into anything) on my phone. Or, the government having access to all of my jpeg photos on iCloud.
Well, OK... But I'll still go with the first option.
I think you lack a basic understanding of technology.So basically he's repeating what could be easily understood all along by people who actually read the writeup on Apple's website without turning on their overactive imaginations and anti-Apple bias
But nothing will ever be enough for those folks. They've already held trial in their mind and convicted Apple of wrongdoing based on hearsay and speculation.
There will be a scanning system on your device.
At any moment that scanning system can be used to scan.... for something else.
Its simply a matter of changing lines of code.
Thats the problem.
No @svenning. I've done a bit of recreational work in this area and this is my knowledge...
The device could make a blueprint describing the image's shapes, lines, and colors. That is coded into a hash that is compared with other images. Someone could change the pixels to a certain degree, but think of it this way... imagine a circle with a few pixels missing. Your mind can fill in the blank and still understand that it's a circle, right?
Image processing and machine learning works the same way. Computers have been trained to analyze shapes and patterns and fill in the altered or missing content to be extremely close to the original.
But I'm guessing that for privacy, the original photo hash is one way and cannot be decrypted to restore or attempt to recreate the original photo.
But I have no idea what Apple is actually doing.
What I cant accept is if they really want to “protect the children” and they have these photos in a database, isn’t the right answer for law enforcement to do their job and shutdown the originators, the real abusers?
Apple has somehow convinced themselves it is acceptable to give up their customers rights to privacy and become the playground tattletail.
Apple keeps saying, “if you don’t want that feature, just don’t use iCloud”. Then why the heck do I need the spyware on MY device?
Apple has somehow convinced themselves it is acceptable to give up their customers rights to privacy and become the playground tattletail.
Apple keeps saying, “if you don’t want that feature, just don’t use iCloud”. Then why the heck do I need the spyware on MY device?
As above I have apologised it was wrong, that an employee can view a photo prior to upload is incorrect. The photo will be scanned on device first, marked and then uploaded for review. But yeah, it still isn't a system I would trust.
It feels like it -- because it absolutely is
They could actually roll this back completely (publicly) and I think this has done largely irreparable harm to their reputation on the privacy front --- particularly a narrative many held, perhaps very naively, that Apple was super interested in protecting their consumers interests, almost to a fault.
Only photos destined for iCloud Photo Library would be scanned. Since the iCloud Photo Library is in the cloud, using this service means you're uploading to the cloud.
If you, as you say, don't upload to Apple's iCloud Photo Library, this system will not scan your photos.
Absolutely!
Instead we have Apple doing the bidding of law enforcement.
It's clear as day - as you've highlighted very nicely - what is really in play here.
All the rest of the "new releases" and "interviews" from Apple are just attempts to push some dirt over the heaping pile of poop here.
There is scanning on your device (photos macos). pls. ref to this comment also…
Craig Federighi Acknowledges Confusion Around Apple Child Safety Features and Explains New Details About Safeguards
Why do ‘the great feature’ image analysis at all, even if it is local. I was wondering the other day that even grain varieties are hashed. Or pets. Who is pushing this idea? We customers are not interested in it, so we are not shareholders in this game. It would be good if Apple would ask its...
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This completely takes away any desire to buy the new spyPhone 13 😔
EXACTLY! Even if you turn off iCloud, the spyware is still included on your phone because it is built into the OS.
That is my number one issue here, and CF doesn’t address it, just tries to explain why Apple’s spy technology makes it safe.
You guys are right on it..
This is the fight - for sure.
We don't want software built into our devices whose purpose is to scan our own content, on our own devices, and compare it to third party databases of any kind.
Yes but if iCloud is turned on, the photo would be scanned on device, even if it is not actually uploaded to iCloud.
Currently the photo is not scanned until it is actually on the cloud.
I'm sorry....The number 0 is not within the set of numbers representing possible options. Please choose from the set 1 or 2.
Maybe Apple should use or build intermediary servers whose whole purpose is to scan things meant to go up to iCloud servers.
Don't do scanning on our devices when the goal is to compare our own content to third party databases
Don't do scanning on our devices when the goal is to compare our own content to third party databases
If the US govt cared about child abuse they would've sent seal team 6 to Balmoral to pick up Andrew.
I'm not sure that rolling this back would actually help the situation much, not even considering reputation. Now that governments know Apples has developed the tool, they have the option of applying pressure to have the tool deployed and used. Prior to now, Apple could say they could not be compelled to invest time and money into such a tool.