Guessing you will go Linux and a flip phone then since google and Microsoft both do this already but scan every photo.
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Craig Federighi Acknowledges Confusion Around Apple Child Safety Features and Explains New Details About Safeguards
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By doing it this way, they can continue to make the claim that they can't access your stuff. Your iCloud photos are technically encrypted - they just hold the keys. By doing it this way, they don't have to decrypt anything in iCloud as they're receiving the malicious "package" in its own "safety voucher" package. Yes, they'll have to review that, but not at the expense of decrypting any other iCloud photos.
I'm not saying that makes it any better. But from their standpoint, where they want to die on the hill of "we can't access your stuff!", I can see some logic behind it.
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I tried an Android once, it wasn't pretty. But I have limits to how far Apple can push me, for me privacy was a major point for Apple.
Depends on how often it happens. I suspect battery performance degradation will be mice nuts. Unless you're constantly adding photos to your phone. It's a duty cycle thing.
From the interview, the actual mechanism in place to scan photos doesn’t seem that bad (using hashes and needing 30 hashes to form a match — not actually viewing photos on your phone when they’re being uploaded to iCloud). Is the concern around this being abused by corrupt governments around the world? I’m just trying to understand in which ways this can be abused by authorities around the world.
But if one of your photos is flagged under this new system, an Apple employee will be able to see the photo (indeed a low quality version) before it is even uploaded to iCloud. So they have no right, to make such a claim.
My argument is why government would use a cumbersome way to do their bidding when something already exists which are much easier for them to use?
If the Chinese wants to catch dissidents it would be much better to get all their iCloud data instead of trying to catch someone because they saved 30 or more "famous" photos.
Basically he’s saying no human is looking at your photos unless the images match the images it‘s searching for….
good point. The rule breakers are free to move on while the rule followers are stuck with this.
Kinda like the people who refuse to get vaccine shots and the rest of us who did now have to put masks back on.
Opt-out is no sense since someone who abuse child will simply opt-out.Thank you, Craig! I wonder if Craig woke up and read my comment from the previous article haha!
Craig Federighi Acknowledges Confusion Around Apple Child Safety Features and Explains New Details About Safeguards
Apple's senior vice president of software engineering, Craig Federighi, has today defended the company's controversial planned child safety...www.macrumors.com
All jokes aside! Craig, you do not know what you are talking about when all you did was praise how important privacy was. Stay away from my PRIVACY, please. It is my HUMAN RIGHT. Craig! please, give us an Opt-Out option from CSAM, please. Let our voices be heard. I will not appreciate Apple scanning my iCloud photos whether it's through AI or Hash.
It sounds like Apple is using "Protecting Children" as an example to be spying on the consumers.
STOP this mass surveillance to be launched. Apple you are not a Law Enforcement organization. Stop acting like one. Apple, how are you not getting the point. You are violating our privacy. Over 7000 signatures were collected. Stop playing with our privacy and human right.
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Exactly. If China or Russia wants to do surveillance they’ll just directly decrypt and look at someone’s entire iCloud data because they already have access to the servers in their country and not have rely on this convoluted system to report suspected matched images.
Yeah but they'd be able to see ALL of them on iCloud. This limits them to only being able to see the ones that are flagged without decrypting anything on iCloud. They'd have to decrypt your entire iCloud library to do the scanning there. This keeps them from having to do that...
Again, I still don't know if I like that any better. But that's the logic behind it. A lot of people are theorizing that this will allow them to make iCloud fully E2EE, without them having any keys. But I still don't know if it's worth it.
And the rest of us will still be subject to it...
How is it easier? How are you going to audit this as part of iOS/iPad? Apple has iOS locked down, to include this monitoring.
One thing I’m watching for in the tech community at large: with everyone carrying a powerful computer in their pocket, how many other tasks can be pushed onto the end user instead of computed/stored in a datacenter?
In this instance, Apple is letting you and your phone foot the bill for computing and power consumption (to self incriminate!). What other services or functions can and will be moved from the server to the end-user? It is undoubtedly saving Apple money.
In this instance, Apple is letting you and your phone foot the bill for computing and power consumption (to self incriminate!). What other services or functions can and will be moved from the server to the end-user? It is undoubtedly saving Apple money.
This will help Apple sells a boatload more of their devices if they are able to achieve that, and I believe they are heading in that direction.
I really don't get the argument that scanning on the device is more private than doing the scan part in iCloud on Apples server.
My three major thoughts are:
a) Now you get the ability to compare pictures you upload to iCloud to the CSAM database on millions of devices. This technology will attract the interest of law enforcement agencies, governments etc.
b) It makes no sense that the scanning part is done locally when your pictures aren't end to end encrypted in iCloud photos. Apple could do the scanning in the cloud, because Apple can access your cloud data anyway.
c) It would make no sense to do the scanning part locally if iCloud photos would be end to end encrypted. Because in this case Apple had no access.
My three major thoughts are:
a) Now you get the ability to compare pictures you upload to iCloud to the CSAM database on millions of devices. This technology will attract the interest of law enforcement agencies, governments etc.
b) It makes no sense that the scanning part is done locally when your pictures aren't end to end encrypted in iCloud photos. Apple could do the scanning in the cloud, because Apple can access your cloud data anyway.
c) It would make no sense to do the scanning part locally if iCloud photos would be end to end encrypted. Because in this case Apple had no access.
And if Apple announced that it was scanning iCloud photos for CSAM, there would be a lot less outrage.
But the fact they went through hoops instead of implementing that...seems suspicious.
Child porn is despicable, but so is surveillance like this. If they start scanning for porn, you can be sure that governments like China will insist that Apple and others use the same technology to scan for other images and data they do not approve of. In fact the USA's own NSA would want to tag on. A scary proposition.