Craig Federighi Talks Bringing iOS Apps to macOS, Reiterates No Plans for Touchscreen Macs

[DeepIn2U]

not in a software keynote.

Some of us recall where WWDC did include many a hardware launch!

Damn I think you just explained everything!

I went for the Surface RT when it first hit, and even though they dead-ended its OS and never gave it proper touch Office apps, the form factor and touch-friendly OS were a perfect combination and I still use it on occasion. Now I main a Dell 2-in-1 and would never go non-touch again. I do intercity bus rides regularly and when there isn't quite room for an open laptop, I can just fold mine to be a tablet and carry on. But now that Microsoft has Apple-like pricing on Surfaces, and actually incredible offerings in the new Surface Books with 1060 GPUs, those are more like what MacBooks could have been if they had modernised those features instead of the ports and the touchbar, and I wonder if it isn't just as well that Apple doesn't do that space. Back in the day I wished I could afford a TiBook; now I wish I could justify such a Surface Book. My last Mac was a 2008 pre-unibody, and it is still waiting to be sold mainly for parts. Sad.

I’m curious the ratio of how many Fortune 500 companies offer the Surface Pro successfully vs MacBook Pro successfully.

 

[chatin]

The touch bar went untouched during his presentation.

 

[Michael Goff]

I'll accept that when you show me a single Windows laptop that has a trackpad anywhere near as good as Apple's. There isn't one.

So the point stands... touch screen exists on Windows laptops because there isn't a better way to do it.

Surface Laptop says hi.

 

[adamus]

As for Macbooks I guess Craig is on the right track.
Even though I try to use my Macbook by touching the screen from time to time ... because I use Surface Books very often too.

But what Craig is clearly missing is, that people no longer want two devices to carry with them.
2-in-1 is way better and smarter than having a 3k$ Laptop and a 1k$ Tablet with two charging kits, multiple adapters for every device and different input modes. iPad with touch and macbook with keyboard.
Seriously. This is just funny because Apple is clearly on the wrong track from my point of view.

our conductor: a new macbook pro 15 and ipad pro 12 -but not carrying that bag of sheetmusic anymore.

 

[TimUSCA]

Surface Laptop says hi.

My wife has one that was issued to her. The trackpad is nowhere near as good.

 

[willgreene99]

Some of us recall where WWDC did include many a hardware launch!



I’m curious the ratio of how many Fortune 500 companies offer the Surface Pro successfully vs MacBook Pro successfully.

I agree, some mention of hardware would have been a compliment to the iOS 12 announcement, the two go hand-in-hand.

I've read that this is a software keynote quite a bit and agree for the most part, however software is written for hardware. And either it is written for the current gen or a future gen will determine what the software should be designed to take advantage of current or new capabilities.

I mean, are current developers going to use new api's that may not be ready until the new hardware is displayed or shown. Not really, they'll continue to develop with current features in mind and when the new hardware is released, then go back and recode for the new.

I just don't know if 3 months of beta testing code is advantageous without knowing what new hardware features will be available?

 

[niun]

My wife has one that was issued to her. The trackpad is nowhere near as good.

Is she able to scroll a webpage without touching the screen though?
I.e. is your original argument moot at this point?

 

[oyabroch!]

Good. I've got two friends who own touch screen windows laptops (XPS 13 and HP some model I don't remember). They both never use it and when you do use it, it leaves dirty finger prints and makes the screen wobble. It's useless on a laptop. Leave it for tablets and phones.

I concur. I won't venture down a well-worn path of rhetoric, but yes... why WOULD you use touch on such an awkward interface; I know why - because the Windows PC world can't BEAR not to say "Me Too"

 

[niun]

I concur. I won't venture down a well-worn path of rhetoric, but yes... why WOULD you use touch on such an awkward interface; I know why - because the Windows PC world can't BEAR not to say "Me Too"

Mayhaps touch doesn't just apply to grubby fingers.

 

[oyabroch!]

Mayhaps touch doesn't just apply to grubby fingers.

Sorry, elaborate please?

 

[niun]

Sorry, elaborate please?

Pen, Pencil etc..

 

[dannys1]

I don't see why he has an ignorant cliched opinion.
You want to tell me I don't need a dongle/adapter if I want to plug in an USB Stick from a friend?
Or if I want to share my screen on a TV ?
Or if I want to import my GoPro SD-Cards ?

I'm just a consumer and still need adapters everyday. Annoying. Really annoying.



:-/

On the other hand I don't need a USB hub anymore because I now have 4 USB ports instead of two like before - so swings and round abouts.
I don't have to do any of the things you describe, ever, i'm just a consumer and I never need adapters ever. Amazing. Really amazing.