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Creative Suite 3 Packages Revealed

FINALLY! some news that is not about the :apple: TV!

I'm going to wait until Adobe officially announces whats going on this Tuesday before passing judgement. I plan on getting ONE of these bundles, just not sure which.

I wonder how Premier is going to stack up against FCP? It better have some SERIOUSLY bangin' features and run super-duper fast, or they will never sell it!
 
In the past, Adobe has given academic pricing that was good enough to get thieves to consider going to school.
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I actually took a class at the community college and still saved money over the retail price....ended up taking a course every semester!
 
You know... they should have "custom-build" options, where you can PICK which ones you want, and still have it be a bundle. I know you can almost do that by buying the products separate, but that costs more.

Or, actually, it could cost less... I might need Photoshop, Acrobat, Fireworks, InDesign, Illustrator. Oops! That crosses over Web and Design groups! I somehow think it would cost more to get both Web and Design together than to buy each separate.
 
Exactly -- FINALLY SOMEONE GETS IT.

mark88 said:
What a totally mish mash of packages, doesn't make sense at all.

The web standard package doesn't include Photoshop CS3, yet the web premium package includes Photoshop CS3 Extended??? Why would web designer want 3D/Video capibilities in photoshop? Seems dumb not to offer the standard photoshop at a lower price in the premium package.

Secondly, Fireworks and inDesign don't come together in ANY package except the master one!!!!! I wanted:

Dreamweaver
Flash
Fireworks
Photoshop
Illustrator
InDesign

If you want those 6 apps It will cost you 2269 euros!!! :-/

meh
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Yes -- Exactly -- Fireworks has good flash integration and is occassionally useful. It should be included in both the print design premium.

I am sure they did this on purpose to force a second sale even on upgrades.
 
Exactly -- FINALLY SOMEONE GETS IT.

clanmesa said:
It annoys me every time I have to fill out a form that says what I do, and you'd think Adobe would realize that many of their customers are cross-discipline. I do print AND web. I'm not one or the other, I'm both. You know, the Census bureau finally realized that people might not be just Caucasian, or just Hispanic, so they started letting people check more than one box. Hello? Adobe? Perhaps if your drop-down menu for job type wasn't so restricted, your database reports would help you realize that many of your customers are cross-discipline.
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Yes -- Adobe needs to read these forums.

But I personally think they do know -- I think their marketing department is angling to force added sales. Which is lame considering the previous professional bundle in CS2 which did hit BOTH market segments.
 
dante@sisna.com said:
Yes -- Adobe needs to read these forums.

But I personally think they do know -- I think their marketing department is angling to force added sales. Which is lame considering the previous professional bundle in CS2 which did hit BOTH market segments.
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Well, I do both (Print/Web), but I don't really need FireWorks, so I'm happy.. At least there's some of us that appreciate the Print Premium-bundle..

(Of course, me not needing FireWorks requires that basic web-stuff like slices etc will be doable in Photoshop, which I assume will be the case.)
 
Finally I can start my Freelancing

I been relying my work to do freelancing how immoral that is, I know.
But now that its coming, I cant wait to get it. Just hope its a resonable package. I wish they offered a la carte deal or something.
 
Web premium and Upgrade InDesign

Assuming the chart and pricing are accurate the Web Design pkg is about 20 percent cheaper than the Print or 'Design' pkg. The overlaps shown below:

Indesign (CS Design Premium)
PS Extended
Illustrator
Acrobat
Flash
Dreamweaver
Fireworks (CS Web Premium)
Contribute (CS Web Premium)

If I were to choose, I would go with the Web pkg and upgrade my copy of InDesign. Last time I checked, an upgrade is $165. I'd save $ over buying the print pkg and get more features.
 
Yeah these package collections are pretty bunk. Adobe assumes creative professionals and students only specialize in one thing?
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I wonder what the academic pricing on the master collection will be? Even though some of those apps I dont need, but I do need ID and AE.
 
i dont see the problem with the pricing

adobe charged like 1500 bux for its CS2 Premium Suite
and Macromedia Charged around 1000 for theres

not that they are one in the same..

you get everything for like 2500

seems like pricing hasnt changed much
 
I dont think its as complex as the vista packaging. home, business, home business, business home, home extra, business extra, home business extra,...
 
Question:
Is "Academic pricing" the same as "Educational Version"?
I need CS3, but there is no way I can afford that.
 
I guess they had to try and guess what we need and make bundles of specific products. So if I need one more than a given bundle--then what? How about a DVD of everything and reasonably priced unlocking licenses for each product so we can mix and match as we want?
 
Reach said:
(Of course, me not needing FireWorks requires that basic web-stuff like slices etc will be doable in Photoshop, which I assume will be the case.)
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Yes, even PS CS2 has slices, animation, etc. ImageReady had been kept around for familiarity, but it was already pretty much redundant. With CS3 they've added some bells and whistles in that area to PS, that IR never had.
 
Too bad they killed GoLive - this is a major disappointment :(

While it definitely has its drawbacks, the interface is far superior to Dreamweaver, and I have always found it much more elegant and intuitive to use. Maybe the new Dreamweaver will incorporate some of the advantanges of each app.

However, it's completely understandable that they would axe GL, as DW is the industry standard I can't imagine why they would offer two Web development apps in the suite.
 
Been holding out on getting After Effects 7.0 for sometime now, 6.5 is still pretty awesome, but now that it is finally going universal, it should speed up my workflow on my MBP. Wonder if the new After Effects will be 7.5? I hope they add some useful features like they did with the 6.5 upgrade (intro of template based text animations to compete with Livetype ease of use). Wonder how much the student edition will be? Hopefully $350 for just AE.
 
as expected, they killed Adobe GoLive for Adobe Dreamweaver CS3, but i'm confused as to why Fireworks wasn't killed off by Photoshop/ImageReady CS3... maybe i'm ignorant, but isn't Fireworks about the same thing as PS?
 
I don't see that anyone has pointed this out - right there on that page it mentions that Adobe's European prices have always been significantly higher than their American prices. So, doing the conversion from Euros to Dollars isn't likely to tell you how much it's going to cost here in the USA.

I'd think their new "standard" packages are going to cost pretty much the same as their old packages. That'd mean the educational prices on those will likely be $299; although it'll be interesting to see if students get a further discount, like they do now. For regular prices, that'd be - what - $699 or so? So the premium prices might be $899 or $999. STILL a lot of money, but people pay it...
 
technicolor said:
Darkroom said:
... maybe i'm ignorant, but isn't Fireworks about the same thing as PS?
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No.
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How about actually spelling the significant differences out, rather than giving a totally unhelpful answer? People usually talk about image slicing and rollovers being available in Fireworks, but in my mind that's pretty trivial stuff - especially now that people aren't generally on modems. What exactly is it that Fireworks does that is difficult or unavailable in Photoshop/ImageReady (and frankly I've never thought ImageReady was a particularly valuable addition to Photoshop)?

I know that sounds rather confrontational, but I'd really like to hear what Fireworks fans have to say.
 
Darkroom said:
as expected, they killed Adobe GoLive for Adobe Dreamweaver CS3, but i'm confused as to why Fireworks wasn't killed off by Photoshop/ImageReady CS3... maybe i'm ignorant, but isn't Fireworks about the same thing as PS?
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Okay from the Creative Suite GoLive was killed off but it will not be discontinued. It will just be a standalone app. As far as Photoshop/ImageReady and FireWorks I'm interested to hear about that too.
 
you saying they are "dropping" GoLive, in favor of Dreamweaver.

but keeping it as a standalone?

why? that makes no sense.

perhaps I am mistaken, but maybe you mean they will continue to support it? But no more new versions
 
Sdashiki said:
you saying they are "dropping" GoLive, in favor of Dreamweaver.

but keeping it as a standalone?

why? that makes no sense.

perhaps I am mistaken, but maybe you mean they will continue to support it? But no more new versions
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http://www.adobe.com/aboutadobe/pressroom/pressreleases/200609/091806CreativeSuite.html

http://www.adobeforums.com/cgi-bin/webx/.3bc3553a

This Adobe press release should answer your questions on GoLive, as well as a post from the adobe forums on the possibility of GoLive. Dropping wasn't the right word to use. I probably should've said Adobe is replacing GoLive with Dreamweaver in the Creative Suite. From information I've read Adobe IS NOT discontinuing GoLive. I could be wrong though. I hope I'm not since I have used both Dreamweaver and GoLive although I've used Dreamweaver more.
 
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