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Creative Suite 3 Packages Revealed

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Wow way too many options. I look over the bundles that include After Effects and I see a few things I don't need or even know what they are? What is Encore? Who wants Contribute? I don't need or want Premiere. Man I may have to just get a simple PS upgrade and go from there.I am glad I upgraded my FCP To studio. Now if I want to ignore AE I can at least use Motion. Not the same but cheaper. Perhaps the upgrade path will be reasonable. A lot of folks have several programs myself included. Both Adobe and MM. Time will tell.
 
nagromme said:
I wish I could just "pick any 5" but a couple of those bundles are very close to what I need: Dreamweaver, Flash, Contribute, Photoshop, and vector drawing. Throw in some upgrade discounts and I might be set. I don't really need Acrobat or Fireworks, but they'd see occasional use I guess.

Just so long as there's a GOOD import path from Freehand 10 to Illustrator :eek:

Too bad Director's not mentioned, but they've said it will gain new versions/features--just not now I guess. Meanwhile Director MX 2004 does appear to run OK in Rosetta AND build executables for Vista, so I'm not totally stuck.
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OMG that would be awesome. For us jack of all trades not one of these packages makes any sense.

I do web design, video editing, and some motion graphics (AE). So, I need DW, PS, FCP (no premere), AE, AI, and I guess I need to learn flash and ditch LiveMotion for good (it's getting wacky in 10.3/10.4.
 
A thought just occurred to me. Can you use the edu version to make sites or process photos that will be sold for profit? I'm an junior high student, and I'd mostly just use CS3 programs for tinkering and going over the top for school stuff like making flyers for events and such, but I do occasionally design a site for a bit of extra cash. Will I have to buy the normal version?
 
wmmk said:
A thought just occurred to me. Can you use the edu version to make sites or process photos that will be sold for profit? I'm an junior high student, and I'd mostly just use CS3 programs for tinkering and going over the top for school stuff like making flyers for events and such, but I do occasionally design a site for a bit of extra cash. Will I have to buy the normal version?
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A little off topic, but can junior-high students (I'm assuming you mean 7th & 8th grade, maybe high school?) use the education discount? If so, I'd love to have known this when I was buying my Mac.
 
corywoolf said:
Been holding out on getting After Effects 7.0 for sometime now, 6.5 is still pretty awesome, but now that it is finally going universal, it should speed up my workflow on my MBP. Wonder if the new After Effects will be 7.5? I hope they add some useful features like they did with the 6.5 upgrade (intro of template based text animations to compete with Livetype ease of use). Wonder how much the student edition will be? Hopefully $350 for just AE.
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The new AE is 8. I know a guy... shhhh.
 
Westside guy said:
How about actually spelling the significant differences out, rather than giving a totally unhelpful answer? People usually talk about image slicing and rollovers being available in Fireworks, but in my mind that's pretty trivial stuff - especially now that people aren't generally on modems. What exactly is it that Fireworks does that is difficult or unavailable in Photoshop/ImageReady (and frankly I've never thought ImageReady was a particularly valuable addition to Photoshop)?

I know that sounds rather confrontational, but I'd really like to hear what Fireworks fans have to say.
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Fireworks has FAR Better One Click Integration with Flash 8 than either Photoshop or Illustrator. Plus the features that carry over from Fireworks into Flash are much more robust and speed development in Flash.
 
Future of GoLive

A few months ago I read a quote from Bruce Chizen saying that Adobe was planning to re-release GoLive as a web design tool for designers while promoting Dreamweaver as a web authoring tool for professional web developers. Considering how designer-unfriendly Dreamweaver has always been, this could be a very good thing. Expecting designers to learn HTML is like expecting print designers to learn Postscript. The very idea is absurd.
 
psycoswimmer said:
A little off topic, but can junior-high students (I'm assuming you mean 7th & 8th grade, maybe high school?) use the education discount? If so, I'd love to have known this when I was buying my Mac.
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I read a post once (will have to dig it up and provide the link) on the issue of using the Adobe edu versions for profit. According to the post yes you can however, according to the information I've read you cannot use the former Macromedia (Dreamweaver, Flalsh, Contribute, FireWorks, Freehand, Director, etc) edu versions this way, unless Adobe changes the policy in this bundle. When I find the link I will post it.

http://www.adobeforums.com/cgi-bin/webx?128@@.3bbe8105 This isn't the original post I was thinking of concerning the topic but it does explain it.
 
Westside guy said:
How about actually spelling the significant differences out, rather than giving a totally unhelpful answer? People usually talk about image slicing and rollovers being available in Fireworks, but in my mind that's pretty trivial stuff - especially now that people aren't generally on modems. What exactly is it that Fireworks does that is difficult or unavailable in Photoshop/ImageReady (and frankly I've never thought ImageReady was a particularly valuable addition to Photoshop)?

I know that sounds rather confrontational, but I'd really like to hear what Fireworks fans have to say.
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Why Fireworks?
 
I thought they were ditching imageready for fireworks, i need indesign, photoshop, illustrator, dreamweaver, flash and possibly firworks, depends on imageready, do you reacon it will be added on to photoshop like previous releases?
 
Unless I missed it - anybody know what the upgrade pricing will be for the suites - ie CS2 premium to CS3 premium!?

Adam
 
don't know about price, but i can use every app in the web premium package. i never felt that way about adobe bundles since it always contained that crappy golive program.
 
Ugh, no upgrade from CS2 Premium to Design Premium? Lame. I was looking forward to trying out Flash, but restricted to these upgrades, Design Standard seems like the only way to go. We can go without the replacements to the web stuff if we have to, it's the print stuff we really need.. Oh well.
 
dkirlew said:
I read a post once (will have to dig it up and provide the link) on the issue of using the Adobe edu versions for profit. According to the post yes you can however, according to the information I've read you cannot use the former Macromedia (Dreamweaver, Flalsh, Contribute, FireWorks, Freehand, Director, etc) edu versions this way, unless Adobe changes the policy in this bundle. When I find the link I will post it.

http://www.adobeforums.com/cgi-bin/webx?128@@.3bbe8105 This isn't the original post I was thinking of concerning the topic but it does explain it.
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Interesting link. The Adobe page used to clearly spell out that academic software could not be used for commercial work. Unless this changed from CS to CS2 I would not trust a forum discussion. I am going over to the Adobe page to check on that now. I work at a University and would like to be able to do commercial work in my free time.
 
Westside guy said:
How about actually spelling the significant differences out, rather than giving a totally unhelpful answer? People usually talk about image slicing and rollovers being available in Fireworks, but in my mind that's pretty trivial stuff - especially now that people aren't generally on modems. What exactly is it that Fireworks does that is difficult or unavailable in Photoshop/ImageReady (and frankly I've never thought ImageReady was a particularly valuable addition to Photoshop)?

I know that sounds rather confrontational, but I'd really like to hear what Fireworks fans have to say.
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Well for me it's a lot of things... but the frame and layer setup in Fireworks is perfect for everything i do. I use it to manage multiple comps with multiple layers, with some layers shared across frames and some not. I use it for storing source stacks of templated items, or for building button states, or animated web banners.

Believe me, I use Photoshop pretty much daily, but I use it more for what it's tuned for. The tools and environment in Fireworks are tuned specifically for building web graphics, and I find it much quicker at getting the results I need.

It's not necessarily a question of what's available in Photoshop and what is not. I'm sure I could draw a logo in Photoshop if I really wanted to, but I'd rather use Illustrator.
 
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