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Criminal Investigation of Lost Next-Generation iPhone Spurred by Apple Requests
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THAT is how Apple and the police tracked down who had the stolen iPhone! Apple was probably already watching for that iPhone's device ID to be connected to iTunes. It instantly gave them the name and address of the person who owned the Mac through their iTunes account.
Mark
Funny how quick people are to cite "reports" when they back up their point of view...but when they are counter to it they say "it's just someone's report....not proof"
Nobody is going to touch your phone if it's in a car. If it's in a bar with thousands of random visitors (half drunken, half sober), it WILL be relocated and moved around.
I guess the real question is: how much less could you care? Or did you mean to say couldn't care less?
Also, for any felony theft the statute of limitations is 4 years from discovery or completion of the offense, whichever is later. (Penal Code section 801.5, referencing Penal Code section 803(c) (see 803(c)(1)).
Next time suggest your mom to leave her phone (and I hope it's a good one) in the bar. We'll see if she gets it back. The guy did a service to Apple by not leaving the phone in the bar but contacting Apple directly.
Yeah....get drunk and do something stupid and you get a bunch of people here feeling sorry for you. Do your job and get thrown under the bus and people here chant "yeah off with his head!"
The hypocrisy is so thick you can walk on it.
The hypocrisy is so thick you can walk on it.
If she found it for sale on eBay she should report it to the police.
As has been said here many times before. It's wasn't just any phone.
And it's still theft in the State of California if they don't make a reasonable effort to find the owner... which they didn't.
More importantly: It's not your phone.
If you lose your child in a shopping mall, can I keep him?
I think the problem here is that people are crapping themselves so much over the leaked iPhone that they're losing sight over some basic common sense and decency, instead giving deference to their own personal convenience and instant gratification.
Such is life in Generation Me.
That's nice. Point me to the part where an authorized representative claimed it wasn't Apple's phone. That was the contention.
No, my point was I look where I last left it long before the thought of filing a police report comes to mind. As I haven't investigated the case directly and don't have anything else to go on but reports - most of which don't state exact numbers - I reference it as such. Funny how the real media does the same thing and includes the disclaimer "according to Gizmodo", right?
Funny how quick people are to cite "reports" when they back up their point of view...but when they are counter to it they say "it's just someone's report....not proof"
Geez, do you think not returning it to the owner (whose name you know) and then selling it to someone you know not to be the owner for $5K qualifies as that intent? Ya think?
It became legally stolen when money changed hands even if it was just to borrow it for the exclusive. This is no joke, millions of dollars of damage, prison terms...
You didn't qualify your statement with a location. You just said the first thing you do is file a police report.
I once went drinking. Afterward, I went to the IHOP next door to get something to eat and sober up. As I went to pay, I realized I didn't have my credit card. Did I:
a) immediately run to the police officer at the door of the IHOP and file a report
or
b) run across the parking lot to the bar and get my card back?
Yup, I ran to the bar because it MAKES SENSE.
I once went drinking. Afterward, I went to the IHOP next door to get something to eat and sober up. As I went to pay, I realized I didn't have my credit card. Did I:
a) immediately run to the police officer at the door of the IHOP and file a report
or
b) run across the parking lot to the bar and get my card back?
Yup, I ran to the bar because it MAKES SENSE.
What's horrible is comparing a prototype phone probably representing $50 million in costs to a $200 phone.
Punishment?
Since all of these threads seem to devolve into repetitive legal discussions, let's talk about something which hasnt been discussed too much. What should Jason Chen's punishment be? Personally, I think it should be life in prison without parole with the precedence of the fact that you can get life in prison for selling intelligence harmful to our country. Well, selling Apple's trade secrets can harm our country since Apple is absolutely the greatest company we have on our soil. Apple is a massive symbol of American capitalism. An attack against apple is an attack on the US, and the punishment should be the same. Life in prison!
Since all of these threads seem to devolve into repetitive legal discussions, let's talk about something which hasnt been discussed too much. What should Jason Chen's punishment be? Personally, I think it should be life in prison without parole with the precedence of the fact that you can get life in prison for selling intelligence harmful to our country. Well, selling Apple's trade secrets can harm our country since Apple is absolutely the greatest company we have on our soil. Apple is a massive symbol of American capitalism. An attack against apple is an attack on the US, and the punishment should be the same. Life in prison!
I guess the posting of the iPhone and innards says a lot about Jason's morals and integrity. (or doesn't - for those of you that believe his actions were appropriate).
His then posting of the person who lost it. Someone accessed the phone users Facebook page from the phone. I assume the original finder before it shut down. Jason buys the phone and the users contact info, it seems. Does Jason then wander over to the Facebook page and find the owner to give the phone back. Nope. He takes photo's of the phone inside and out, publishes pics and then publishes the phone users real name.
I think Jason Chen, Gizmodo and integrity would be hard to have in the same sentence.
It seems pretty clear that the person who "found" the phone sold the phone, the users name and anything else they had.
Would this be the definition of "Low Life".
To now try and put Jason and Giz on some pedestal or minimise this as just a minor "oh lost" "who cares" thing is understating in a big way.
His then posting of the person who lost it. Someone accessed the phone users Facebook page from the phone. I assume the original finder before it shut down. Jason buys the phone and the users contact info, it seems. Does Jason then wander over to the Facebook page and find the owner to give the phone back. Nope. He takes photo's of the phone inside and out, publishes pics and then publishes the phone users real name.
I think Jason Chen, Gizmodo and integrity would be hard to have in the same sentence.
It seems pretty clear that the person who "found" the phone sold the phone, the users name and anything else they had.
Would this be the definition of "Low Life".
To now try and put Jason and Giz on some pedestal or minimise this as just a minor "oh lost" "who cares" thing is understating in a big way.
Just fine Chen the $50 for receiving stolen property and then we can all move on from this, its just boring.