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Dark Mode second thoughts anyone?

Mr Todhunter said:
I got it to work with Terminal (ha, probably terminal is better dark), but in any case, this works, and you only have to restart Terminal

defaults write com.apple.Terminal.plist NSRequiresAquaSystemAppearance -bool YES
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Thank you. This is getting better and better :)[/QUOTE]

Figured out how to get Mail only to Light Mode -- Mail runs in a container, so the prefs are in the container, and you need to disable system integrity protection to make the change, and you can then turn it back on.

defaults write ~/Library/Containers/com.apple.mail/Data/Library/Preferences/com.apple.mail.plist NSRequiresAquaSystemAppearance -bool YES
 
steveaburns said:
Thank you. This is getting better and better :)
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Figured out how to get Mail only to Light Mode -- Mail runs in a container, so the prefs are in the container, and you need to disable system integrity protection to make the change, and you can then turn it back on.

defaults write ~/Library/Containers/com.apple.mail/Data/Library/Preferences/com.apple.mail.plist NSRequiresAquaSystemAppearance -bool YES[/QUOTE]
Great. Many thanks!
 
Scary Spice said:
Dark mode sounds cool but is horrible to use for real work. It would never be released when SJ was around.
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Firstly, I use DM for everything I can and prefer it far more than a glaring white screen when I’m doing “real work”. Especially in a darker environment.

Secondly, every time I see a post with “SJ would’ve never allowed this” I have to assume it’s being used as if Steve Jobs was the end all be all of knowledge and no one else’s opinion meant/s a thing. The man was simply not a God and did have complete failures. I recall him stating that a stylus was idiotic yet we now have the Apple Pencil which is simply outstanding. I guess he couldn’t imagine anything beyond what was available at the time.
 
Skoal said:
Firstly, I use DM for everything I can and prefer it far more than a glaring white screen when I’m doing “real work”. Especially in a darker environment.

Secondly, every time I see a post with “SJ would’ve never allowed this” I have to assume it’s being used as if Steve Jobs was the end all be all of knowledge and no one else’s opinion meant/s a thing. The man was simply not a God and did have complete failures. I recall him stating that a stylus was idiotic yet we now have the Apple Pencil which is simply outstanding. I guess he couldn’t imagine anything beyond what was available at the time.
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it makes no difference anyway. NO one knows what jobs would have thought about apple products & designs created after he passed; it's just a cheap way to complain about something without owning one's own opinions... typical forum behavior (i mean online forums in general, not just on macrumors).
 
fisherking said:
it makes no difference anyway. NO one knows what jobs would have thought about apple products & designs created after he passed; it's just a cheap way to complain about something without owning one's own opinions... typical forum behavior (i mean online forums in general, not just on macrumors).
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Exactly my thoughts on the matter!
 
Skoal said:
Firstly, I use DM for everything I can and prefer it far more than a glaring white screen when I’m doing “real work”. Especially in a darker environment.

Secondly, every time I see a post with “SJ would’ve never allowed this” I have to assume it’s being used as if Steve Jobs was the end all be all of knowledge and no one else’s opinion meant/s a thing. The man was simply not a God and did have complete failures. I recall him stating that a stylus was idiotic yet we now have the Apple Pencil which is simply outstanding. I guess he couldn’t imagine anything beyond what was available at the time.
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Lets not forget, Steve released an iphone that wouldn't work if you held it.
 
Mr Todhunter said:
I got it to work with Terminal (ha, probably terminal is better dark), but in any case, this works, and you only have to restart Terminal
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FYI, I strongly recommend using iTerm as your terminal app if you're in Terminal a lot... it's basically a wrapper for the native mac terminal that brings a handful of really sweet features. Of course you can also just choose a dark skin in the native apple terminal too.

https://www.iterm2.com
 
CBJammin103 said:
As a developer, I was looking forward to dark mode and I've now decided I don't really like it at all. I think it could improve over time, though. Fortunately there's a way to revert to the High Sierra dark menu bar + dock if anyone's interested.

defaults write -g NSRequiresAquaSystemAppearance -bool YES

And then restart your computer or log in/out.
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Hey.

I tried this but didn't like the result. I tried to reset it using...

defaults write -g NSRequiresAquaSystemAppearance -bool NO

This worked okay, but now lots of apps have menus and toolbars that are almost impossible to read, with lots of black on black on grey.

Do you know if there is a way of resetting this globally? Most of the time I have to work in light mode as too many apps are unreadable.

Thanks.
 
it's useful for developers writing and reading millions of codes at night.
 
MacHiavelli said:
Hey.

I tried this but didn't like the result. I tried to reset it using...

defaults write -g NSRequiresAquaSystemAppearance -bool NO

This worked okay, but now lots of apps have menus and toolbars that are almost impossible to read, with lots of black on black on grey.

Do you know if there is a way of resetting this globally? Most of the time I have to work in light mode as too many apps are unreadable.

Thanks.
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Not sure, did you restart after changing it back to NO?
 
SDAVE said:
That's where Apple is headed. "True Dark Mode".

Batteries can't be innovative enough so they can make it more efficient via software.

If you look at some iOS apps like Apollo, on my iPhone X all the pixels are shut off in true dark mode and it still looks good.

If you can't see where this is all headed, you're blind.

iOS has apps already like the Clock app, or even Do Not Disturb banner in iOS 12 are all becoming dark mode based and soon "True Dark Mode."
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If you think Apple is going to ship pitch black UIs on 27 inch displays I don’t know what to tell you. Thanks for calling me blind though.
 
Scary Spice said:
Dark mode sounds cool but is horrible to use for real work. It would never be released when SJ was around.
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A dark background and light text is easier on the eyes than a light background and dark text. Whether or not the dark mode is implemented well is another story. For example I like IntelliJ's dark mode but not eclipse's. If you code you know what I am talking about.
 
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i've been using it since the first PB, and... am getting used to it, but... it could use some work. calendar looks more like an inverted image than a 'dark mode'; some other places seem 'off' a bit too (ie finder windows). but overall, it's 'disappeared' into use, am not thinking about it so much, just using it, which should be the point.
 
I don't hate it, but I like the lighter, fresher, cleaner, normal look a little better.
What I'm really looking forward to is a very dark mode for the iPhone's (like the clock app etc). That must look sooo good (on black iPhones)!

What I don't really like is that I can't set the accent color to graphite without losing 'the stoplight buttons': they turn grey as well. On High Sierra, you could only set the highlight color to, for example, graphite, and the accent color would still be blue, so I guess it's still an upgrade after all.
 
MacHiavelli said:
Thanks. I did, but without luck. Perhaps the next beta will help...
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Hi,

NSRequiresAquaSystemAppearance is a optional code string that deactivates the automatic dark mode. So you have to delete the code to go back to automatic mode.

With an PLIST Editor:
edit GlobalPreferences.plist

or

Terminal:
defaults delete -g NSRequiresAquaSystemAppearance

Greetings from Germany
 
polbit said:
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Now that I have tried Mojave in dark mode on my MBP, I have to say - I really hope they keep the prior options as well...
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Agreed. The dark menus and menu bar are great but I don’t want it everywhere. The way that Mojave is today I can’t do what I have in HS so OS X might have run it’s course with me. Steve would have said No.
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CBJammin103 said:
Fortunately there's a way to revert to the High Sierra dark menu bar + dock if anyone's interested.

defaults write -g NSRequiresAquaSystemAppearance -bool YES

And then restart your computer or log in/out.
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Phew. Maybe Mojave has a future for me after all.
 
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dogslobber said:
Agreed. The dark menus and menu bar are great but I don’t want it everywhere. The way that Mojave is today I can’t do what I have in HS so OS X might have run it’s course with me. Steve would have said No.
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Phew. Maybe Mojave has a future for me after all.
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haha, i love when people tell us what steve would have said, as if their personal opinion wasn't theirs, but a reflection of jobs POV. let the man rest in peace...
 
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