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Data Extraction Company Cellebrite Advertising New Software for Cracking Devices Running iOS 11
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None of that matters if the stock is high - and boy is it high. 99% of the time we have no idea what Tim is doing - and 99.9% of Apple customers don't even care - they just like their i-things...
To everyone complaining about Apple’s security (or for that matter Android’s) on this matter take a step back and realize the logic at play here:
You’re complaining that Apple is not ahead of a security apparatus that is funded to the tune of tens of billions of dollars a year. Think about that for a minute before laying the blame on a consumer goods company.
You’re complaining that Apple is not ahead of a security apparatus that is funded to the tune of tens of billions of dollars a year. Think about that for a minute before laying the blame on a consumer goods company.
You are absolutely correct. Its a profit oriented company with the goal of paying their HQ employees large salaries and giving their executives massive bonuses.
You say that like it's a bad thing. Apple is the one company in the world we can all agree the executives deserve their bonuses.
That’s if someone doesn’t get ahold of Cellebrites methods. There have been plenty of people who’s credit cards have been stolen with the victim being in jail.
Cellebrite is a company. A company is a group of people working together. Odds are very high that the mastermind behind cracking iPhones is probably just one or at most a couple people at the company. This person just happens to work at Cellebrite. If he could figure out how to crack them, so can others we don't know about.
This is good news for all of us. Apple has been paying us a disservice for years ensuring us that the i-devices are secure, while in reality they are not at all.
Be careful what you do with your iPhone. There's a reason law enforcement is so keen on getting into your device — it contains a treasure trove of secrets.
This is good news for all of us. Apple has been paying us a disservice for years ensuring us that the i-devices are secure, while in reality they are not at all.
Be careful what you do with your iPhone. There's a reason law enforcement is so keen on getting into your device — it contains a treasure trove of secrets.
So I’m wondering why Cellebrite would publicize this.
Regardless, this might explain why lately we haven’t heard much from the Feds about iPhone security. Looks like they already had an ace in the hole.
Regardless, this might explain why lately we haven’t heard much from the Feds about iPhone security. Looks like they already had an ace in the hole.
At some point you have to stop calling it “Law Enforcement” when they are breaking and entering to obtain information.
Nope. I mean it would work for the plot of a really, really, really bad straight to DVD movie, but as a practical matter it's still really bad.
If I am a shadowy government entity wanting Celebrite to crack a phone, why would I give them/tell them to falsify evidence when I could have them crack the phone and I can plant the false evidence myself.
1. Saves me from killing Cellebrite employess, thus closing the loop.
2. Keeps me from panicking after realizing a Celebrite employee felt unnerved working for my agency so they secretly stored evidence against me with an obscure relative in Brooklyn.
3. I get to avoid blowing up a storage unit in Long Island while reporting it to the media as a gas main explosion.
4. I don't get the advance from Simon & Schuster for the first 100 pages of my nov...
/calls Cellebrite to plant evidence
If someone has physical access to your device, they can get into it, it's just a matter of how much money and time they want to spend to do it.
EDIT: Oops wrong quote
It's an arms race that everybody is playing whether they like it or not.
It's an arms race that everybody is playing whether they like it or not.
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Law enforcement outsources investigation all the time. Who do you think is doing the autopsy? The police chief? Or the DA? Who do you think is recovering deleted files from a hard drive? The judge? They outsource almost everything all the time, then summon the experts at the court under oath.
Just wondering, is this activity really legal? I’ve heard so many times that jailbraking etc is illegal because of stuff they put in the terms of service. But you are allowed to hack their devices and make money out of it?
Well in the vein we are all replaceable, Tim proved Steve was replaceable. Company has grown, new products were created etc. a personal opinion of Cook aside he has made stuff happen. And he was hand picked for the job, so if you don’t like Tim, you can consider this is a Steve failure.
I don’t aee my privacy eroding. Cook didnwhat he did to open up a China market. Unless you live in China your privacy is not eroding either. And it seems he does out up a fight for three letters, but Apple is still bound by the law.
I think there is a time-limit on FaceID.
From the article:
"A warrant found by Forbes suggests an iPhone X was sent to Cellebrite on November 20, with data successfully extracted on December 5. Based on the warrant, it's not clear how data was obtained, but given the time gap, it's unlikely Face ID was used."
Would never be allowed by the Israelis or the US. For all effective purposes Cellebrite is a defacto Shadow Agency.
This would only affect criminals and terrorists since that’s the only time that the government would a)confiscate your phone as evidence b)spend time and money sending your phone off to Cellebrite. Since I’m neither, it doesn’t affect me in any way shape or form.
That's probably a little cynical.
It's possible to build secure systems, just probably not on the scale of a modern mobile OS.