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Probably no different to what they do with Tiger now...

They do implement measures now...it is very difficult to put it on a PC, and is often not very smooth at all...sometimes, when you get it working, any update to OS X kills the install...

Thats the whole point, Apple currently doesn't restrict installing osX on a PC at all. If the hardware (and ROM) is compatible it will just install. like i said in another thread, the Mac Mini disks can be used unaltered on some Dell laptops because the hardware is so similar (just a ROM update).

Not having an IntelMac install disk is the biggest restriction we have at the moment, only 'recovery-disks' that come with new Mac hardware. These recovery-disks then have to be hacked into an installation disk with extra drivers, there is no extra protection!!

I'l repeat, currently there is no protection build in osX or in the hardware to prevent the installation on a PC.
 
Thats the whole point, Apple currently doesn't restrict installing osX on a PC at all. If the hardware (and ROM) is compatible it will just install. like i said in another thread, the Mac Mini disks can be used unaltered on some Dell laptops because the hardware is so similar (just a ROM update).

Not having an IntelMac install disk is the biggest restriction we have at the moment, only 'recovery-disks' that come with new Mac hardware. These recovery-disks then have to be hacked into an installation disk with extra drivers, there is no extra protection!!

I'l repeat, currently there is no protection build in osX or in the hardware to prevent the installation on a PC.

I thought Dell still uses a BIOS where as Apple uses EFI, and in that regard, it doesn't work.
 
Thats the whole point, Apple currently doesn't restrict installing osX on a PC at all. If the hardware (and ROM) is compatible it will just install. like i said in another thread, the Mac Mini disks can be used unaltered on some Dell laptops because the hardware is so similar (just a ROM update).
Of course not. They just don't support the vast number of non-Apple configurations out there. Otherwise it won't install. This is what osx86 people et al are working on.
...only 'recovery-disks' that come with new Mac hardware...
They are not recovery disks, they are copies of Mac OS X custom-tailored for your hardware.
I'l repeat, currently there is no protection build in osX or in the hardware to prevent the installation on a PC.
There used to be, in some computers there still is, and there isn't much stopping Apple from using the TPM modules present in many current Intel Macs. Get your facts straight.

On a sidenote, how would TPM on a Mac prevent installation on a PC? Oh wait, maybe you haven't heard of "Dont Steal Mac OS X.kext" either...
 
There used to be, in some computers there still is, and there isn't much stopping Apple from using the TPM modules present in many current Intel Macs. Get your facts straight.
I don't see how Apple can use the TPM modules when most or all current models don't have it. For the rest i can agree with you, we'll see at WWDC what approach Apple is going to take in this.

Personally i can't see a highly Stock dependent company like Apple to not license to other hardware makers, the profits can be enormous/gigantic/big/not small ... and at Apple's current strength not to risky at all.

Yes i have some stock invested :D
 
I don't see how Apple can use the TPM modules when most or all current models don't have it. For the rest i can agree with you, we'll see at WWDC what approach Apple is going to take in this.

Personally i can't see a highly Stock dependent company like Apple to not license to other hardware makers, the profits can be enormous/gigantic/big/not small ... and at Apple's current strength not to risky at all.

Yes i have some stock invested :D

Yes, I do too, and I don't want Apple to do any such thing given history (apple HAS done this before...) and that this will most likely destroy a lot of the aspects of having a Mac to begin with.

and given the number of intel macs sold by Apple that do indeed have TPM (although Apple doesn't use it), and given that Apple can start including it whenever they feel as such if there was a need it isn't entirely infeasible.
 
Another interesting date:

Tomorrow marks 40 years for the Beatles' "Srg. Pepper's Lonely Heartclub Band".

Maybe a special offer and "Celebration" tomorrow on iTunes?

Oded S.

"Sgt. Pepper" debuted on June 1, 1967, so it won't be "40 years ago today..." until Friday. Not a great day for that to fall on from a marketing standpoint, so maybe today will be the day for the Beatles catalog.

It's Tuesday, and iTunes has not rolled yet. I wonder what's up with that? Beatles catalog later today maybe? No special event?
 
Why would AT&T go to the trouble of printing up posters with the June 11 date? The main reason they'd put a date on a poster is to announce the availability of the iPhone on that date. But there's no way in hell they'd be allowed to announce the date of availability in advance, right? Once the phone is out, of course they'll put up posters, but, at that point, the date of availability is past, so there's no need to print a date.

In fairness, there's no context here. The posters might say "iPhone. Coming June 11th, 2007", with a big picture of an iPhone in the background, or they might just say "iPhone. Out now", with some tiny text in one corner spelling out "Not to be displayed until June 11th, 2007".

The latter, I believe, in some form is quite common on most marketing materials.
 
Iphone rumored to be released on june 11th? I really hope not. I've said it once, and i'll say it again.

iphone on June11th means a really rushed leopard display.

You can't release 2 products like iphone and leopard on the same day and give both products enough time to do them justice. And apple has already made it clear that between iphone and leopard, iphone wins every time.

and if they do release iphone and have the leopard event on the same day they DEFINITLY won't have time to release macbook pros or new imacs....

have iphone released later this month.... give us "non iphone mac lovers" a chance to see something else for a change.
 
You can't release 2 products like iphone and leopard on the same day and give both products enough time to do them justice..
Leopard isn't out for a good couple of months at least. The beta is going to be available at WWDC though, but it's not like that really matters for anyone interested in Leopard.
 
Iphone rumored to be released on june 11th? I really hope not. I've said it once, and i'll say it again.

iphone on June11th means a really rushed leopard display.

You can't release 2 products like iphone and leopard on the same day and give both products enough time to do them justice. And apple has already made it clear that between iphone and leopard, iphone wins every time.

and if they do release iphone and have the leopard event on the same day they DEFINITLY won't have time to release macbook pros or new imacs....

have iphone released later this month.... give us "non iphone mac lovers" a chance to see something else for a change.


......Leopard is delayed until october.
 
......Leopard is delayed until october.

your right, leopard is delayed until october... but... they have hinted (will I get yelled at, if I say promised?) that they will finally tell us what these oh so wonderful "secret features" are.

Even though leopard is delayed until october, someone waiting ever so impacintly is really looking forward to that keynote.
 
what do you guys think of the quicktime stream that will become available after the keynote on apple's site? if the keynote stream becomes too laggy because of the stress apple's servers might recieve, does anyone know how long after the keynote it might become available for download in itunes? or were their might be a torrent? thanks.
 
anyone has the tale of the tape for Jobs vs. Gates matchup? undercard of Schiller vs. Ballmer?
 
Looks like June is going to be a full month for Mac users. I'm personally eager to see if my pet theory is going to hold up. With the rumored demise of the Mac Mini and the lack of an update for the 17" iMac, I suspect that we'll see a whole new low-end consumer offering that will include both CPU and display (NOT in an all-in-one configuration) at a reasonably low price. I can't imagine that Apple is getting rid of those but I could imagine them replacing them with such an offering as it would retain the benefits of both.

If it's going to happen, I suspect WWDC is a likely place to unveil it.

IMO, that's not likely. They may get rid of the Mini & 17" SD iMac, but they'll probably keep the 17" combo iMac, not least because it's doing well in the education market, etc. My feeling is that they'll simply drop the price of the 17' combo & have that as their entry-level desktop Mac, introducing new 20" & 24" iMacs later.

Replacing the Mini with a new low-end desktop wouldn't make financial sense. Such a computer would surely have to offer more than the Mini did, but also, with the quality components Apple uses & the profit margins it aims at, it'd probably have to sell at a higher price than the Mini. I'd like a new headless Mac, but I don't think there's a great demand for it.

What I do expect is at least one new Mac laptop to capitalize on Apple's roaring success with laptops; maybe an ultra-portable. I think a 15.4" MacBook is another possibility.
 
Iphone rumored to be released on june 11th? I really hope not. I've said it once, and i'll say it again.

iphone on June11th means a really rushed leopard display.

You can't release 2 products like iphone and leopard on the same day and give both products enough time to do them justice. And apple has already made it clear that between iphone and leopard, iphone wins every time.

and if they do release iphone and have the leopard event on the same day they DEFINITLY won't have time to release macbook pros or new imacs....

have iphone released later this month.... give us "non iphone mac lovers" a chance to see something else for a change.

I feel the same way, it's time for Leopard to make a larger appearance. I'm not too worried that Steve will spend all his time on the iPhone. What more is there to say about it? I'm sure there are somethings that we don't know yet that are going to be revealed during the Keynote, but the mass of the iPhone has already been discussed. Also, this is a developer conference, and their main concern is Leopard. Not the iPhone. It's not the right place for Steve to go into detail about the iPhone. Unless he's going to announce that it's going to be open to third-party developers...
 
I feel the same way, it's time for Leopard to make a larger appearance. I'm not too worried that Steve will spend all his time on the iPhone. What more is there to say about it? I'm sure there are somethings that we don't know yet that are going to be revealed during the Keynote, but the mass of the iPhone has already been discussed. Also, this is a developer conference, and their main concern is Leopard. Not the iPhone. It's not the right place for Steve to go into detail about the iPhone. Unless he's going to announce that it's going to be open to third-party developers...

I agree, but thinking back to all of the keynotes i've seen... could you imagine seeing SJ saying... Today... shipping IPhone... and then saying ok on to leopard?

Think back to appleTV... even though most of those features were demoed back last fall, he still spent quite a bit of time on them again in janurary.

Like I said, Give us all the leopard we can eat during WWDC and then he can spend as much time on the iphone as he wants.
 
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