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David Pogue: New iMacs and Mac Pros Coming 'Probably in 2013' [Update]
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Agreed! Once again, Apple is behaving like the honey badger of the computer industry, when it comes to the pro market...
Huh. As soon as Tim Cook steps on board, Mac Pro get its first update in a very long time, although small, and he has now also told they have something "great" in store here for next year. Apple also release a major update to the Macbook... Pro.
If anything, it seems like Cook is more pro-positive than Jobs, unless this is all in some "grand scheme" of things planned since years ago. But it doesn't take some "grand planning" to give the Mac Pro line a tiny bump like they just did, which indicates to me that Jobs was simply more reluctant to this, possibly part of Jobs' wish to focus on things, this time mobile.
Controversial because Jobs is so looked up to, yes, but nothing's wrong with having different philosophies. Minor changes in view is what I expected would come from this. As long as they don't affect the "Apple spirit", I'm fine.
Nicely put, I agree with your rationales and speculations. It's nice to read something from a business-minded perspective, which may be painful to acknowledge but it makes the most business sense.
People just need to keep in mind Apple is a business.
Interesting find there! A minor CPU speed bump if this would be the "budget" iMac 27" model. +2 GB RAM to 6 GB, and what first dropped my hopes as I thought it looked like a sloppy update, but later realized was a graphics card identical to the Mac Pro ones in no "Mobile" version (!): ATI Radeon HD 5750 w/ 1 GB GDDR5. Should be much faster than the current despite being from a former ATI Radeon generation? Also curiously no price listed for this iMac. Wow. Very interesting indeed.
Small is an understatement.
I saw pages back that someone asked what changed. Did that get an answer? All I see that's different is the word "new".
No Thunderbolt, no USB3, either same graphics or some other non-new ones, CPU seems about the same as I remember. Maybe BTO options got cheaper?
there's a future for all of us
Apple sure didn't invest that much resources into retina updated pro apps just for "just" a new MBP. They will bring more hardware that is using retina displays (cinema displays, iMacs and maybe some highly rumored Apple TV-sets)...
Apple sure didn't invest that much resources into retina updated pro apps just for "just" a new MBP. They will bring more hardware that is using retina displays (cinema displays, iMacs and maybe some highly rumored Apple TV-sets)...
Hopefully with matte display. At least as an option. Even if more expensive. Oherwise, no purchase. Sign the petition at
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Apple could have done the 'silent upgrade' with just a little bit of noise and avoiding burning their bridges with lots of Pro users yesterday. I think many will have just decided it's PC / Hackintosh time now, and it might be a difficult mindset to shift with such half-hearted non-communication of vague future plans.
Yah i'm not the one bringing up an irrelevant documentary (really, a test shoot) as an example of people using 4k.
4K (and 3-D) is irrelevant this year, and B) the few people that ARE using 4k are doing fine with what they have already, and have no concern about adding more CPUs to their render farm.
NO ONE is complaining about the Mac Pros.
This is very strange. This iMac is supposed to have a better processor, more RAM, but only with 1066 Mhz (even the current one has 1333 Mhz, the new MacBooks have 1600 Mhz) and the same graphics card as the Mac Pro (not a mobile version). I think this iMac is complete nonsense when it comes to RAM and Graphics.
My girlfriend is waiting for new iMacs, she wants to replace her Late 2009 Unibody Macbook (white), seeme like she has to wait a bit longer. I really hope there will be new iMacs anytime soon.
Perhaps they are holding back the big redesign until they can release Retina-iMacs and Retina Cinema Display. My bet is that they will bring Retina to all of their Macs (at least BTO) at WWDC 2013 and that the current MacBook Pro and the Bext Generation MacBook Pro will become one by then.
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If Apple was at all bothered about Mac Pro users in the slightest it would have added Thunderbolt to the Mac Pro at the very least. They know that Mac Pro users are especially spec savvy and that the updates they released yesterday would receive such a negative from the Mac Pro community, but obviously couldn't care less. No one who already owns a Mac Pro is going to upgrade to these, so who do they think are going to buy them?
Whether or not Apple intend to release an all new Mac Pro in 2013 doesn't matter because Pro users can't be left waiting 3 years for a computer that may or may not be updated to the spec they desire, I need to have confidence that my hardware provider will keep me 'ahead of the game' for years to come. All other workstation providers will include the latest processors, graphics cards etc.. in their machines as soon as they can = good business = customer satisfaction = hello Apple!
I know Apple couldn't care less, but I've been buying Macs for pro use since 1999 (I'm a dinosaur) and have paid 100+ times more than any isumer to Apple over the years, my current Mac Pro will come to the end of its Apple Care in September, I was really hoping for a significant update before this so I could sell it with the Apple Care included and upgrade, obviously this scenario isn't going to happen now, but I'm not going to keep a machine that may need expensive repairs and lose resale value after September, so will still be selling it and will have to buy another brand, to be honest it isn't such a bad thing I've had a look around and can get the latest processors, latest graphics cards, bumper RAM, etc... for a less than a Mac Pro.
I really think they are going to kill the Mac Pro and I'd rather they did it now than feed their professional customers a load of bull, I don't believe there will be a significant upgrade in 2013, rather that this is some ploy to keep current sales turning over, who would buy a machine now that may be obsolete next year?
Whether or not Apple intend to release an all new Mac Pro in 2013 doesn't matter because Pro users can't be left waiting 3 years for a computer that may or may not be updated to the spec they desire, I need to have confidence that my hardware provider will keep me 'ahead of the game' for years to come. All other workstation providers will include the latest processors, graphics cards etc.. in their machines as soon as they can = good business = customer satisfaction = hello Apple!
I know Apple couldn't care less, but I've been buying Macs for pro use since 1999 (I'm a dinosaur) and have paid 100+ times more than any isumer to Apple over the years, my current Mac Pro will come to the end of its Apple Care in September, I was really hoping for a significant update before this so I could sell it with the Apple Care included and upgrade, obviously this scenario isn't going to happen now, but I'm not going to keep a machine that may need expensive repairs and lose resale value after September, so will still be selling it and will have to buy another brand, to be honest it isn't such a bad thing I've had a look around and can get the latest processors, latest graphics cards, bumper RAM, etc... for a less than a Mac Pro.
I really think they are going to kill the Mac Pro and I'd rather they did it now than feed their professional customers a load of bull, I don't believe there will be a significant upgrade in 2013, rather that this is some ploy to keep current sales turning over, who would buy a machine now that may be obsolete next year?
Ha ha ha, same here.
I sold my tiny mac mini in Jan and used my bro's laptop and thought they would release some update in Feb (considering last 2 fixed interval of 380 days). but they didn't. Now i dont know what to do. it will be really bad for me to go n buy the same imac at the same price as it was available six month back..atleast in Jan it was 6 months old, now its 1yr old !!
^. Everything he said +1.
We shouldn't have to wait ANOTHER year. There is simply NO EXCUSE. I, (and I'm sure I'm not alone here) am done waiting.
....and Pogue needs to grow a sack instead of coddling apple.
Agreed. Because the sooner it does this the sooner it follows Jobs into the grave, killed by cheaper better iToy competition without Job's phobias and biases.
But getting that through thick heads is like telling millions of Lawrence Welk viewers in 1972 that Thomas Organ would be dead by 1995, killed by trying to chase Casio down the lowest common denominator plastic iToy heap.
Ditto any other US organ manufacturer that didn't gradually shift to entry-level product STARTING at five figures.
A wise man once said: "Quality; not quantity."
There's nothing wrong with the MacPro case. Sure, it's old now. But the people who buy them seldom complain about the age of it or the heft.
Plus aren't the MacPro's motherboards basically made by Intel anyhow and aren't that different to other Xeon motherboards? So Apple simply needed to order a different motherboard, slap in the latest CPUs, and everyone would have been happy.
Even if they had been working on radically upgraded MacPro cases for 2013, surely with their cash mountain they could have afforded this 'stop gap'?
One day iPhone and iPads are going to tank when some 'next big thing' appears out of the blue and Apple will turn back to the pro content creators that have been in their corner from day one... and they'll have all buggered off.
Plus aren't the MacPro's motherboards basically made by Intel anyhow and aren't that different to other Xeon motherboards? So Apple simply needed to order a different motherboard, slap in the latest CPUs, and everyone would have been happy.
Even if they had been working on radically upgraded MacPro cases for 2013, surely with their cash mountain they could have afforded this 'stop gap'?
One day iPhone and iPads are going to tank when some 'next big thing' appears out of the blue and Apple will turn back to the pro content creators that have been in their corner from day one... and they'll have all buggered off.
So what if Apple releases the Jesus Pro 6 months from now? You'd be in the same situation a couple of years later.
There are companies out there that actually listen and respond (you know, officially) to their professional customers. They provide road maps and all that sort of thing. If your business rely on top of the line hardware, maybe you should rethink your tactics. In fact, you probably should have done that already but there's no time like the present
"Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results."
There are companies out there that actually listen and respond (you know, officially) to their professional customers. They provide road maps and all that sort of thing. If your business rely on top of the line hardware, maybe you should rethink your tactics. In fact, you probably should have done that already but there's no time like the present
"Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results."
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