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i can only imagine there will be even better sales closer to arm launch. it's worth the wait either way.
 
Amazon Warehouse has some of the 1TB models for $2200.

I wish I could have gotten one with 8GB of video ram but for $2200 I’m willing to take the plunge.
 
Nice discount. Have to add, these storage sizes seem just insanely small. 512GB for a $2k big size MB Pro? My Photo's library would swamp that just by itself.

We've been switching over to SSD's for many years now and the sizes / prices aren't close to where hard drives were back when we started switching.

512GB is "insanely small" ? In what world ?
 
512GB is "insanely small" ? In what world ?

My photo library is 5TB and growing. My music library is around 400GB, not including a concert archive that's about 800GB. And I just discovered youtube-dl, so my concert/video archive is starting to grow. And work-related project/document storage only keeps growing.

Some of us have been doing this stuff for a long time.

Right now the main problem is backing all that stuff up. Photos are backed up on amazon photos, but a lot of the other stuff is all backed up locally.

Now that I think about it I could probably use DropBox to back up a bunch of stuff. Hmmm.
 
My photo library is 5TB and growing. My music library is around 400GB, not including a concert archive that's about 800GB. And I just discovered youtube-dl, so my concert/video archive is starting to grow. And work-related project/document storage only keeps growing.

Some of us have been doing this stuff for a long time.

Right now the main problem is backing all that stuff up. Photos are backed up on amazon photos, but a lot of the other stuff is all backed up locally.

Now that I think about it I could probably use DropBox to back up a bunch of stuff. Hmmm.

Wow ok, so it's insanely small for you but not for the average person.

Just curious, how many photos approx. would 5TB be, over 100k ?
 
My photo library is 5TB and growing. My music library is around 400GB, not including a concert archive that's about 800GB. And I just discovered youtube-dl, so my concert/video archive is starting to grow. And work-related project/document storage only keeps growing.

Some of us have been doing this stuff for a long time.

Right now the main problem is backing all that stuff up. Photos are backed up on amazon photos, but a lot of the other stuff is all backed up locally.

Now that I think about it I could probably use DropBox to back up a bunch of stuff. Hmmm.

You need a NAS and some cloud storage. Keeping all you photos in one or even 2 place is a risk. I use a backup everything to my NAS, and then backup the NAS to the cloud.

I follow the old having everything digital you care about in 3 places rule. It would really suck to have a home catch fire and destroy the computer and the backups
 
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Am I missing something? It looks like the base model on Apple's site is $2199 not the $2399 listed on Amazon's site. Did Apple cut the price first? $200 off is a lot different than $400...

Edit: Looks like I was being directed to their Education store site automatically- have a kid so I was looking on that site a month or two ago, apparently it remembers and sends you there when you look at pricing.
 
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This is what happens when you produce laptops with memory and SSD installations that can't be upgraded in the field. Drop the price another $400 for the 1 TB SSD model and I might be interested. No way I will bite at a model with only 16 GB of RAM. 64 GB is still, arguably, too much. 16 GB isn't future proof enough.
 
With the impending launch of Apple Silicon, the lack of wifi 6 (which doesn't matter that much), and the complaints of low battery life has me hesitant.
 
this is a interesting deal. however looking at my usage and the time i keep a MBP (~5 years) i rather wait for the next major redesign which will be the ARM macs. I wish the MBP's were upgradeable (SSD and RAM). Then it would make more sense to buy one now and keep it for a long time.
 
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These unprecedented deep discounts might be a reflection of what's going on behind the scenes — people aren't buying cuz of the ARM announcement
It could be that sales are slow due to people holding out for the Apple Silicon updates, but these sales aren't unprecedented. Similar sale prices have been offered as far back as January.
 
Amazon only? Or would they price match at Apple Store? The deal is a lot sweeter if you can get it for that price from Apple along with the back to school promo AirPods.
 
I'm not buying any new Apple hardware until I know how VMWare Fusion or Parallels behave on Apple Silicon.

VMware makes virtualization products, not emulation, so most likely no Fusion on ARM, but who knows? Parallels I have not used, but my understanding is that is also virtualizing, not emulating. Those that virtualize the CPU, would just be able to make ARM-based virtual machines on ARM Macs.

QEMU on the other hand is an emulator, it might be able to make x86/x64 virtual machines on ARM Macs.
 
I've used Macs exclusively since 1995. This is right up there with the best of them (IMHO). I am not experiencing any of the problems in that thread. It may be a quality control issue, sure, but that doesn't make this "by far the worst Macbook they've ever made".

What do your fans run at when plugged into an external monitor and watching a video?
 
Might as well wait for a 16 inch MBP with WiFi 6, Intel or AS, I'm planning to replace my router which has been crapping out more often lately with a WiFi 6 router.
 
The 16 inch MBP was always an underpowered release, old CPU, slow memory.
It's selling point was the slightly larger screen only.
Apple are setting the benchmark lower for their Silicon.

The sale now makes the 5600m GP a $1100 upgrade though!
 
I've used Macs exclusively since 1995. This is right up there with the best of them (IMHO). I am not experiencing any of the problems in that thread. It may be a quality control issue, sure, but that doesn't make this "by far the worst Macbook they've ever made".
It's extremely easy to replicate, if you have one of the cheaper GPUs (the top model with the HBM memory doesn't have that problem) - basically just connect an external monitor and watch your temps and fan RPM.
 
It's extremely easy to replicate, if you have one of the cheaper GPUs (the top model with the HBM memory doesn't have that problem) - basically just connect an external monitor and watch your temps and fan RPM.

The external monitor thing is what has kept me from pulling the trigger on a 16". Like alot of people I have been working almost exclusively from home and use my mbp in clamshell with 2 external 27" monitors and I really don't need to listen to that all day. It really sounds like a driver issue and I'm amazed it hasn't been fixed yet.
 
What do your fans run at when plugged into an external monitor and watching a video?
It's extremely easy to replicate, if you have one of the cheaper GPUs (the top model with the HBM memory doesn't have that problem) - basically just connect an external monitor and watch your temps and fan RPM.

I am seeing the fans normally hover around 2300 rpm. At this speed I can't really hear them. GPU/CPU temps in upper 50's. This is during my normal morning workflow which is running several apps including Msft Teams video meeting. When I stop the Teams video meeting (but keep the app open), I can watch videos in my browser and do a lot of other multitasking with the fans staying around 1700. Two external monitors are connected, but to be fair, they're only 1080p. However, I have tried working through a 4K monitor at home, and didn't notice the fans get any louder than at my office (which is to say I rarely notice them at all).

This is the very base model, 5300M/6-core i7.
 
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