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I am seeing the fans normally hover around 2300 rpm. At this speed I can't really hear them. GPU/CPU temps in upper 50's. This is during my normal morning workflow which is running several apps including Msft Teams video meeting. When I stop the Teams video meeting (but keep the app open), I can watch videos in my browser and do a lot of other multitasking with the fans staying around 1700. Two external monitors are connected, but to be fair, they're only 1080p. However, I have tried working through a 4K monitor at home, and didn't notice the fans get any louder than at my office (which is to say I rarely notice them at all).

This is the very base model, 5300M/6-core i7.

Remarkable. I'd kill for that... I have the same model and it would be at 4k-5k rpm normally in the use example you're giving. With Turbo Boost off it would probably stabilized at 3500 but stay there. That is still loud.
 
Remarkable. I'd kill for that... I have the same model and it would be at 4k-5k rpm normally in the use example you're giving. With Turbo Boost off it would probably stabilized at 3500 but stay there. That is still loud.
That's crazy. Makes me wonder if more recent models are better than early ones... I just got my machine about a month ago. Did you get yours early in the release cycle?
 
VMware makes virtualization products, not emulation, so most likely no Fusion on ARM, but who knows? Parallels I have not used, but my understanding is that is also virtualizing, not emulating. Those that virtualize the CPU, would just be able to make ARM-based virtual machines on ARM Macs.

QEMU on the other hand is an emulator, it might be able to make x86/x64 virtual machines on ARM Macs.

Parallels does virtualizing now, but started as an emulator. I've used them for many years. As you can imagine, emulation back in the PowerPC days was horribly slow. We'll see how much better it is under Apple Silicon (assuming Microsoft doesn't focus more on their Windows on ARM project), but this whole situation puts me in a pickle. I have legacy apps that need Windows, so my iMac Pro is going to be used for many years to come I believe. But my MacBook Pro is the 2016 model, so I need to guess when the last Intel MBP is coming out and not wait too long, because I doubt I'll be able to buy an Apple Silicon Mac for at least five years.
 
These unprecedented deep discounts might be a reflection of what's going on behind the scenes — people aren't buying cuz of the ARM announcement
I for one hope they come down further. If I can get the 1TB model for $2k it's a no brainer.
 
This base model is my daily driver at work. It's a fantastic all-around performer. Amazing trackpad, keyboard, audio, screen, and speed. For under $2k, it's hard not to recommend.


Never buy the first version of any new product. There are always "growing pains" with new stuff. First adopters get bragging rights, but pay extra and suffer through the issues inherent to new tech.

Granted, Apple is terrified of a new macbook having any issues, and are certainly dumping silly amounts of money into testing....but guaranteed someone will find something they dont like about it on day 1...

Anyone remember how the 2015 macbook pros were heralded as the perfect machine during the butterfly keyboard days? I expect the 16" will be held in the same high regard once these new machines come out.

Yeah, I would snap.one up. My money is on it being desirable for a good while. Like, how is bootcamp going to work on ARM? Probably not at all....
 
Never buy the first version of any new product. There are always "growing pains" with new stuff. First adopters get bragging rights, but pay extra and suffer through the issues inherent to new tech.

You have a point, and generally I agree with it, but this 16" was hardly a dramatic redesign from the previous 15". In fact, other than the fan noise complaints which seem to be an issue with specific graphics cards (not Apple's hardware design, so it might have even happened if they didn't redesign at all), this machine has widely been praised as rock-solid.
 
Wasn't Parallels demoed during WWDC?
Yeah, but only running an ARM version of Linux on it. It would need an ARM version of Windows, and: MS doesn't license it's ARM version to anyone except it's own OEM products; and even if it did decide licence it to Apple, the Windows version on ARM is currently, by all accounts, a substandard version.

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