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'Death Hug': Verizon iPhone Demonstrates Antenna Attenuation Issues
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Death grip nonsense ...
I just put the death grip on an old Samsung, run of the mill cell phone and guess what ... SIGNAL DROP.
This is all a bunch of nonsense ... a waste of time. If you don't want attenuation problems with your phone, go stand under a cell tower and talk. There are more important things to talk about than this.
I just put the death grip on an old Samsung, run of the mill cell phone and guess what ... SIGNAL DROP.
This is all a bunch of nonsense ... a waste of time. If you don't want attenuation problems with your phone, go stand under a cell tower and talk. There are more important things to talk about than this.
Grip This
Who the hell is going to hold a phone like that ?
Just tested iLounge.com against other web sites and it's a painfully slow server. Almost 7 times slower than other sites tested. Sometimes their server times out, so maybe they should check THAT out and make a video about it.
Interesting too that they make a "hit piece" and then disable comments on YouTube.
Who the hell is going to hold a phone like that ?
Just tested iLounge.com against other web sites and it's a painfully slow server. Almost 7 times slower than other sites tested. Sometimes their server times out, so maybe they should check THAT out and make a video about it.
Interesting too that they make a "hit piece" and then disable comments on YouTube.
It all depends on the strength level. Bars are not a unit of measurement, and every phone displays them differently. You're obviously in an area of good signal strength. If you take your phone to an area that has lower strength, but still enough to show full bars, then do the "hug" test, it will drop more than one bar.
A case works....which means that there is a "touch of death" for the wifi somewhere on the Verizon model.
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Are you serious?
Who in the world would hold a phone the way thar guy is?
Unbelievable. Enjoy your iPhones and stop whining.
Are you serious?
Who in the world would hold a phone the way thar guy is?
Unbelievable. Enjoy your iPhones and stop whining.
You knew this was going to happen - someone eager to prove that there was still a problem with the antenna.
Waiting for the day when Apple does away with the 'bars' display altogether because of idiots like this.
until they get the iPhone... (LOL)....
Any T-Mobile unlocked iPhone 4 users yet? Do you have any issues (I have an old original one).
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True. My point is that it still counts as a "dropped call" on the network. AT&T's dropped call rate spiked after the iPhone 4 was released but then it went back down 2 months later when the cases were released. Verizon sat back and laughed....now it's their turn.
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Concisely,
1) Tightly gripping ANY smartphone will cause attenuation of incoming and outgoing signals. True for wifi and cell connections.
2) The observable effect of such attenuation will vary greatly, depending on your proximity to cell tower or wireless router, and the traffic load at that access point.
3) This effect was more readily apparent on AT&T because their coverage is not as consistently good as Verizon. Thus, it was relatively easy for people to drop calls or data connection simply by bridging the infamous gap with a single finger.
Time to move on.
Concisely,
1) Tightly gripping ANY smartphone will cause attenuation of incoming and outgoing signals. True for wifi and cell connections.
2) The observable effect of such attenuation will vary greatly, depending on your proximity to cell tower or wireless router, and the traffic load at that access point.
3) This effect was more readily apparent on AT&T because their coverage is not as consistently good as Verizon. Thus, it was relatively easy for people to drop calls or data connection simply by bridging the infamous gap with a single finger.
Time to move on.
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Saw the video. He need another verizon iPhone side by side. Plus wifi speed varies. My Internet speed varies from edge speed to 11 Mbps. In the video, he had 3 bars that dropped to one. For me, I get 3 bars and it varies down to two without touching the phone. He had to make an effort and focus. ilounge is the least visited site. If he had a second phone doing simultaneously may prove it. Otherwise they just want attention and his source is a troll.
Saw the video. He need another verizon iPhone side by side. Plus wifi speed varies. My Internet speed varies from edge speed to 11 Mbps. In the video, he had 3 bars that dropped to one. For me, I get 3 bars and it varies down to two without touching the phone. He had to make an effort and focus. ilounge is the least visited site. If he had a second phone doing simultaneously may prove it. Otherwise they just want attention and his source is a troll.
To be honest I'm a little skeptical...in the video his hand runs up the entire side of the phone, is the problem the same as the AT&T version at the bottom left or is it because he is bridging it at the top left? Or does it only happen if you bridge both at the same time? He never makes it clear in the video of course because they are just trying to get hits to their blog of course.
And the "death hug" is just stupid, when does anyone grip the sides of the phone while it is in landscape like that...
And the "death hug" is just stupid, when does anyone grip the sides of the phone while it is in landscape like that...
My favorite comments from last time were those saying Apple would have to issue a recall. Just hilarious. Apparently signal attenuation is on the same level as a phone bursting into flames or causing some other bodily injury.
The new design is right around the corner, don't panic.
The new design is right around the corner, don't panic.
Let me point out that although I'm a big Apple consumer (MBP, 2 Mini's, 3g ipad for myself and some of my employees, various ipod's, etc), I'm not an iphone owner however. I'm a blackberry user. I happen to be on AT&T because I like the full size Bold.
I say this because I don't want to seem like an iphone fanboy when I say, COME ON GUYS... if you grip a phone over the antenna it's going to potentially cause issues. It's not a design flaw, it's a fact. The alternative is to either put an external antenna on them like phones from 10 years ago, or put a plastic bumper around it to reduce the problem. Why do people think this is a design flaw? Yeah, they could probably make the iphone out of a non-metallic material and help with the problem, but then there would be complaints about the fit and finish of the phone. Everyone always has to complain about something.
I say this because I don't want to seem like an iphone fanboy when I say, COME ON GUYS... if you grip a phone over the antenna it's going to potentially cause issues. It's not a design flaw, it's a fact. The alternative is to either put an external antenna on them like phones from 10 years ago, or put a plastic bumper around it to reduce the problem. Why do people think this is a design flaw? Yeah, they could probably make the iphone out of a non-metallic material and help with the problem, but then there would be complaints about the fit and finish of the phone. Everyone always has to complain about something.
If it is the phone's fault then why do Canadians not have a problem with their GSM/HSPA iPhone 4? *HINT* It is the network and congestion on the network. It is also dues to OCD people making it fail on purpose.
You can cause attenuation by holding it a certain way so that you deliberately bridge antennas. Calls will be dropped if your signal is marginal to begin with but if you have a strong signal, the call will not drop.
There are various other phones that can exhibit the same behaviour if you grip in in a particular way with a particular amount of pressure.
Get over your OCD already and enjoy your phones.
You can cause attenuation by holding it a certain way so that you deliberately bridge antennas. Calls will be dropped if your signal is marginal to begin with but if you have a strong signal, the call will not drop.
There are various other phones that can exhibit the same behaviour if you grip in in a particular way with a particular amount of pressure.
Get over your OCD already and enjoy your phones.
Antenna
Any radio will suffer reception degradation if you touch or grip the antenna or the leads.
Now, if Apple has promised that the antenna was positioned in such a way that you couldn't interfere with the antenna or leads, then shame on them. Does anyone know what kind of claims have been made by Apple or Verizon on this subject?
Any radio will suffer reception degradation if you touch or grip the antenna or the leads.
Now, if Apple has promised that the antenna was positioned in such a way that you couldn't interfere with the antenna or leads, then shame on them. Does anyone know what kind of claims have been made by Apple or Verizon on this subject?
Death Grip for my Verizon iPhone --> eh, okay, yeah, I had a problems with data, but I only went from 4 bars to 3 bars, and I was also able to hold a call while death gripping.
Death Hug (really?) --> Could not replicate that. As difficult as it was to contort my hands into that Death Hug grip, I managed to do it, but lo and behold, loaded absolutely the same. No difference at all. Tried it at least 5 times.
Not that big of a deal. Hold it like a normal person and it's fine. Hold it like a journalist that needs to get something before the end of the work day, then yeah.
Death Hug (really?) --> Could not replicate that. As difficult as it was to contort my hands into that Death Hug grip, I managed to do it, but lo and behold, loaded absolutely the same. No difference at all. Tried it at least 5 times.
Not that big of a deal. Hold it like a normal person and it's fine. Hold it like a journalist that needs to get something before the end of the work day, then yeah.
Idiots? Because they're highlighting a hardware flaw? Yeah, lets gloss over hardware faults and see where we end up.
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I love the flood of Verizon fanboys on here defending their defect phone they received after waiting 4 long years.
I love the flood of Verizon fanboys on here defending their defect phone they received after waiting 4 long years.
