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'Death Hug': Verizon iPhone Demonstrates Antenna Attenuation Issues
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Okay, understood and agreed. I'd really be interested in seeing the number dropped due to death grip vs. lack of coverage, but of course it's impossible to say
"iLounge reports..." -- That's a huge joke... "reports" -- wow! What reporting they are doing. More like: iLame.
The return of the boo-boo fixer.
this makes me want to buy an iPhone 4...
(eyes start watering....)
I'm amazed and saddened that people tend to obsess about things that are actually quite weird. Both the "death hug" and "death grip" shown in the videos are highly unnatural positions for anyone to hold a phone... moreover, different phones have "optimum" methods for getting the attenuation to happen. So, whether its losing "only one bar" or many, isn't even logical to hold up, as each vendor may choose to display bars differently.
I'm listening to the way the guy in the video is speaking, and I can tell he seems to think this is a very important issue. What this is, unfortunately, is an excuse that may cause someone not to purchase the best phone they've ever owned... because they think this will affect them. I even feel that Consumer Reports, in an attempt to sound objective (given its history of glowing reports on Apple) felt the need to push in the opposite direction simply to help its "street cred" with what was likely an extremely vocal group of non-Apple customers.
Kind of sad. I'm still convinced many of the early complaints were more about issues with the proximity bug making calls hang-up by errant touches to your face. All fixed now though...
~ CB
I'm listening to the way the guy in the video is speaking, and I can tell he seems to think this is a very important issue. What this is, unfortunately, is an excuse that may cause someone not to purchase the best phone they've ever owned... because they think this will affect them. I even feel that Consumer Reports, in an attempt to sound objective (given its history of glowing reports on Apple) felt the need to push in the opposite direction simply to help its "street cred" with what was likely an extremely vocal group of non-Apple customers.
Kind of sad. I'm still convinced many of the early complaints were more about issues with the proximity bug making calls hang-up by errant touches to your face. All fixed now though...
~ CB
Did the first Antennagate have a Wifi issue? This might be new. Is there a 'touch of death' for the Wifi on this one?
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Sure ATT put this guy up to making this video. However the main difference is that with my Verizon phone I have yet to drop a call, with the iphone 4 on ATT I dropped them all the time. I am considering the issue fixed.
Yeah, the signal does go down one or two bars, but never once have I had no service, like the ATT iphone.
Sure ATT put this guy up to making this video. However the main difference is that with my Verizon phone I have yet to drop a call, with the iphone 4 on ATT I dropped them all the time. I am considering the issue fixed.
Yeah, the signal does go down one or two bars, but never once have I had no service, like the ATT iphone.
now I don't know if the wifi issue is of concern
and let me make it clear that I am not trying to blame any network carriers. And yes, the iPhone 4 design seem to have a higher level of signal attenuation than other phones, meaning that a design flaw is not out of the question.
But when I was in Hong Kong, I asked around and EVERYONE told me that there was NO antennagate issue. This is because the signal strength is so high that the attenuation effect is minimal.
That is why we also have varying reports of some showing the grip of death and some don't.
Hmmm let's think for a second... when you have low signal strength and the signal is attenuated..... the signal goes kaput? that's "news" to me!
and let me make it clear that I am not trying to blame any network carriers. And yes, the iPhone 4 design seem to have a higher level of signal attenuation than other phones, meaning that a design flaw is not out of the question.
But when I was in Hong Kong, I asked around and EVERYONE told me that there was NO antennagate issue. This is because the signal strength is so high that the attenuation effect is minimal.
That is why we also have varying reports of some showing the grip of death and some don't.
Hmmm let's think for a second... when you have low signal strength and the signal is attenuated..... the signal goes kaput? that's "news" to me!
man this is hilarious news!!! HAHA to all those people who thought they would be better off on Verizon network.
I have never experienced a problem with mine on AT&T, i just find this to be hilarious.
I have never experienced a problem with mine on AT&T, i just find this to be hilarious.
Atleast I can actually keep a call going!
you must live in the boonies. here in Dallas, i never have an issue with AT&T.
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it's unbelievable that this site, tho it is "rumors", has to stoop to re-propagating this kind of drivel. i don't know ANYBODY, including my Pops, my Grandpa or any of their aged friends, who holds their phone like that. NOBODY.
Nobody my age, under or over holds it that way, and I have friends who game while they're boarding. This is such nonsense and I'm sure ATT loves it/supports it/made it. The guy talking sounds like he's trying to be SOOOO objective and scientific it reminds me of old government films on utube.
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it's unbelievable that this site, tho it is "rumors", has to stoop to re-propagating this kind of drivel. i don't know ANYBODY, including my Pops, my Grandpa or any of their aged friends, who holds their phone like that. NOBODY.
Nobody my age, under or over holds it that way, and I have friends who game while they're boarding. This is such nonsense and I'm sure ATT loves it/supports it/made it. The guy talking sounds like he's trying to be SOOOO objective and scientific it reminds me of old government films on utube.
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I haven't read the thread, as I don't really care. I just wanted to chime in and say that I got my Verizon iPhone today and can't recreate either of the two antenna issues claimed, even while gripping like I'm trying to smother the thing.
I tested placing the iPhone 4 in a 4-inch thick lead box and then encasing the box in concrete with a camera to record the iPhone screen positioned inside the box. I then dropped the concrete block with the lead box inside and the iphone and camera into the ocean. I later retrieved the concrete box with a submarine and after chiseling the concrete away and opening the lead box I found the camera had recorded footage of the signal on the iPhone dropping to zero bars.
I call this the "death entombment" and iPhone 4's antenna is not powerful enough to maintain signal in such cases. To date no other smart phone has been found to have this issue, but then again nobody has bothered to try. Maybe Apple should create some videos of other smart phones with the "death entombment" and see how they hold up and then post their findings to youtube.
NOTE: If you try to replicate my test make sure to set the iPhone 4 to not go into screen-blanking mode. My first attempt was wasted as the camera simply recorded the screen shutting off to save battery power. If you are able to replicate my results please post your findings to youtube.
I call this the "death entombment" and iPhone 4's antenna is not powerful enough to maintain signal in such cases. To date no other smart phone has been found to have this issue, but then again nobody has bothered to try. Maybe Apple should create some videos of other smart phones with the "death entombment" and see how they hold up and then post their findings to youtube.
NOTE: If you try to replicate my test make sure to set the iPhone 4 to not go into screen-blanking mode. My first attempt was wasted as the camera simply recorded the screen shutting off to save battery power. If you are able to replicate my results please post your findings to youtube.
In related news, covering mic on the iPhone makes it hard for people to hear you and covering the speaker makes it hard to hear other people. Also not pointing the screen at your eyes causes terrible performance of the graphics! And you actually have to put the earbuds in your ears for those to work! Geez
