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'Death Hug': Verizon iPhone Demonstrates Antenna Attenuation Issues
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Verizon....there goes your Dropped Call advantage. I guess T-Mobile or Sprint can claim that going forward.
Well if I touch the antenna of my 2nd Generation iPod Touch even just lightly, the WiFi connection instantly drops. I have to be careful not to touch the black antenna part at the back. I think it's a normal thing, the same way, you don't put your finger in front of the camera lens when taking a photo, and you don't put your finger on the microphone when you're on the phone. Sometimes you have to be careful to avoid these, but that's just the way it is I guess.
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Gosh! People expected this one to have absolutely no attenuation? Any radio is going to have attenuation when you wrap it in your sweet, sweet flesh.
Gosh! People expected this one to have absolutely no attenuation? Any radio is going to have attenuation when you wrap it in your sweet, sweet flesh.
Hmm....
The AT&T iPhone 4 had two separate "issues".
1. Death Grip -> happens on every phone.
2. Bridging the antenna, but not holding it too tight -> this affected some locations and people disproportionately.
I'm disappointed the video didn't address #2. Most people will admit that #1 will cause problems on every phone. The #2 was the main issue that got clouded by #1, imo.
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The AT&T iPhone 4 had two separate "issues".
1. Death Grip -> happens on every phone.
2. Bridging the antenna, but not holding it too tight -> this affected some locations and people disproportionately.
I'm disappointed the video didn't address #2. Most people will admit that #1 will cause problems on every phone. The #2 was the main issue that got clouded by #1, imo.
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When the PHONE's at fault, not the NETWORK? You can put the phone on a network where it's the only phone, and if you hold it wrong, it'll still drop the call.
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Normally don't comment but...
Shut the *uck up already with the "death grip" whining. So if you hold it in your hand like you're trying to crush it, it might not get amazing service. NOBODY holds it like that. Did you know if you squeeze your hands around somebody's neck, they don't talk the way they usually do? BECAUSE THAT'S NOT THE NORM. I hope he sends you a free bumper with a steaming hot dump in the box.
Shut the *uck up already with the "death grip" whining. So if you hold it in your hand like you're trying to crush it, it might not get amazing service. NOBODY holds it like that. Did you know if you squeeze your hands around somebody's neck, they don't talk the way they usually do? BECAUSE THAT'S NOT THE NORM. I hope he sends you a free bumper with a steaming hot dump in the box.
Where's all the people who were calling me and others naive idiots for believing Apple changed the antenna because of the different requirements of CDMA and not because of the attenuation issue?
pwned.
pwned.
Seriously?
Look, I love ilounge.com but come on - who holds their phone like that? I've had a iphone 4 since Sept here in greece and have never had a single dropped call or signal issues. I'm sure if I was to wrap it in tin-foil and put it under water, something might happen. It's a phone - treat it as such and learn how to use it.
Look, I love ilounge.com but come on - who holds their phone like that? I've had a iphone 4 since Sept here in greece and have never had a single dropped call or signal issues. I'm sure if I was to wrap it in tin-foil and put it under water, something might happen. It's a phone - treat it as such and learn how to use it.
His first death grip wasn't the classic death grip at all, which just involves shorting the gaps on the lower part of the phone with your fingers, even if your hand isn't around the phone. He firmly and closely gripped the entire phone with his hand... That'll weaken the signal (especially since he had low reception to begin with - 3 bars is pretty weak in practice) even on my old plastic LG dumphone, not to mention my current phone - the Droid. Same for wifi - every PDA I have owned won't get a reliable signal if you cup the whole thing.
This is nowhere near a demonstration of the concerns with the AT&T version, which were somewhat overblown to begin with.
This is nowhere near a demonstration of the concerns with the AT&T version, which were somewhat overblown to begin with.
Preinstalled feature at the request of Verizon so users can blame Apple if VZW's network gets overloaded.
I'm not so sure. I have a Droid Eris, the same one Apple used in their video to cover up their antenna issues, and try as I might, I cannot get it to drop more than one bar. Even when I "hug" the phone, covering everything except a little strip at the top of the screen so I can see the signal, I only drop a bar.
...Other than that though, the phone's crap. But don't say it happens on every phone.
now that i have my iphone and it works perfectly fine with no issues whatsoever, i couldn't care less about this site or what anyone on it has to say. thanks for getting me through the last month of anticipation guys, take it easy.
Say what you want, but the only way my iPhone 4 behaves properly with signal strength is when wearing a case. I despise having cases on phones at all since I baby all my gadgets, but I'm forced to wear one with the iPhone 4. I've owned 3G/3GS and never have I had these problems. And before you say anything else, I haven't moved. I haven't changed jobs. Everything else is exactly the same except for the different phone.
The fact that it took this a few days to surface suggests to me that this seriously is a non-issue. People would instantly have been on the lookout for it after all the publicity the GSM iPhone 4 received for it.
I've noticed that my iPhone 3GS similarly will lose signal when I hold it in either of the described "death hug" or "death grip" positions. I'm thankful for knowing the positions so that I can hold it differently and have my internet connection resume, as otherwise I'd probably just be pissed off that my phone is so slow.
Possibly Apple should add a message when your phone signal begins to drop along the lines of "You're holding it wrong."
Or maybe it should just have a mild taser built in so it can shock you when you hold it wrong.
I've noticed that my iPhone 3GS similarly will lose signal when I hold it in either of the described "death hug" or "death grip" positions. I'm thankful for knowing the positions so that I can hold it differently and have my internet connection resume, as otherwise I'd probably just be pissed off that my phone is so slow.
Possibly Apple should add a message when your phone signal begins to drop along the lines of "You're holding it wrong."
Or maybe it should just have a mild taser built in so it can shock you when you hold it wrong.
This is beyond ridiculous. My phone is working just fine, in every way possible. I'm tired of seeing this crap, MacRumors should be ashamed of rehashing the same b.s. over and over again.
I think the reason we are seeing this issue is because in the video his thumb is covering up that opening.. Could potentially be an issue to some people.. But at this point I mean its to be expected, all phones have an issue with this, maybe they may not be as bad as the iPhone 4, but I think its just a design flaw, and hopefully in the future Apple will have it officially resolved.. But either way reception is going to be an issue, it is a phone after all
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You're hugging it wrong.
Sent from my iPhone
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Surely this can't be happening again, can it?!
You're hugging it wrong.
Sent from my iPhone
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Surely this can't be happening again, can it?!
I haven't used a cdma Iphone 4, but after dealing with my Att Iphone 4 its more of just a death touch then grip. The signal goes way down when something barely touches and bridges the two antenna sections on the bottom left, even just the touch of the side of a finger, but it doesn't have anything to do with a strong grip. Makes me wonder where that term came from.