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'Death Hug': Verizon iPhone Demonstrates Antenna Attenuation Issues

no one holds a phone like that.. is this really an issue? the AT&T iphone did get covered by your thumb a bit but its moved out of the way with verizon.

file this under "making trouble out of nothing"
 
Let me explain this as simple as possible. Apple stated it was never an issue and that was true. The issue for them was placing the gap where users commonly place their finger and cause the signal to drop. In this updated version of the iPhone, the gap was placed elsewhere, where the chances of a person holding it as weird as they are in this video are extremely minimal. Conclusion, it was never an issue with the phone, just the position of the antenna, get over it.
 
MacFly123 said:
I swear this is so ridiculous! Show me one person on earth who actually holds their phone like that lol! This is not an issue. It hasn't even ever been an issue for me on AT&T either. Get over it people! :rolleyes:
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Correct. I've been using my AT&T without a bumper to make calls on for the past four months and have not had one failed call. I don't pay attention to how I hold it either.
 
Can you hear me now?

How about now?

Now?

Wait...how about now?

dang...

Now?

wait...putting on my iGlove....

How about now?
 
From the previous thread:

Quit your bitching. It's how the phone is, so either live with it or go get another damn phone. Millions of us use this phone just fine, and just because it's your spoiled ass you think Apple should spin it's orbit around you? You sound like a 12 year old.
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I paid them 600 dollars for the damn phone. I expect them to jump through hoops whilst juggling mercury let alone make a phone capable of making calls for that amount. Stop being so apologetic. Apple clearly made a mistake with this design and they themselves admitted it. You sound like a fanboy.

Why is this news? Really Macrumors? It's stupid to report stupid "news."

Every radio telecommunications device can be attenuated. This is how radio works! Don't like it, walk around with a wire connected to the world!

Also, my iPhone 4 has worked great since day one.
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I must have tried this death grip with dozens of phones. None of them had a problem. Well one or two might have dropped a bar if held with a 20lb grip, but if all it takes is a finger to COMPLETELY lose signal on an iPhone 4, I think you shouldn't keep trying to say "BUT BUT ALL PHONES DO THIS." No they don't. Stop believing everything Apple tells you. Judging by their screwup here, they're the last company that you should trust to make calls (lol pun) on how other phones on the market behave.
 
hexonxonx said:
Correct. I've been using my AT&T without a bumper to make calls on for the past four months and have not had one failed call. I don't pay attention to how I hold it either.
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Yep. I don't have any issue in my location with the VZW cellular signal strength or wifi strength no matter how I'm holding my phone. Not saying others can't make it happen, but for me it's a non-issue.
 
mKTank said:
From the previous thread:



I paid them 600 dollars for the damn phone. I expect them to jump through hoops whilst juggling mercury let alone make a phone capable of making calls for that amount. Stop being so apologetic. Apple clearly made a mistake with this design and they themselves admitted it. You sound like a fanboy.
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I have been trying to teach my phone to drive me home when I've had to many.
 
Really?
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This is such a non-issue; no one holds their phone like this, and if you do, you're an idiot, as one should know that attenuation happens.

I'm trying in vain to replicate these "issues," to no avail (that said, I'm using an Incase sleeve on the unit).
 
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Stop posting videos of this crap

I am so sick of hearing about iPhone death grips. Did you see how this screwball was holding the phone in order to reproduce his claims? Who in the hell holds any phone like that? Hey guess what...If you hold anything in a bear hug its not going to work right. Nice journalism loser. Go back to community college, retake the basic journalism course and pay attention to the part where the professor says that you should remain objective.
 
It's annoying that people are bringing it up again, but who really holds their iPhone sideways like that?
 
This is stupid, if you death grip any phone you block the wireless signal. I've tried it on all my iPhones and on a few feature phones. It's not the iPhone's problem it's just fact that your hand blocks wireless signals.
 
Anyone else think that it is only when the top left slit is covered that it slows down wifi? Just like bottom left slows down 3g and kills signal.
 
My Verizon iPhone4 does have this issue bad. I can be on a phone call with 5 bars and hold the phone as I normally would and drop to 1 bar.

Called apple got a free bumper. I'm hesitant to use it considering I heard it scratches the iPhones antenna band.
 
Dagless said:
Idiots? Because they're highlighting a hardware flaw? Yeah, lets gloss over hardware faults and see where we end up.
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It is not a hardware flaw. It is a network issue that is highly localized and variable based on location and a bunch of OCD people following directions that they see online showing how to make almost any phone lose signal.

@nickmccally: Does your self worth depend on how many bars you phone has? It drops one bar from 5 to four? Does it drop a call? No? Then your phone is fine and you need to see a shrink about your OCD. Every phone will lose a bar if it is on the edge between bars. You cannot change the laws of physics.
 
nickmccally said:
My Verizon iPhone4 does have this issue bad. I can be on a phone call with 5 bars and hold the phone as I normally would and drop to 1 bar.

Called apple got a free bumper. I'm hesitant to use it considering I heard it scratches the iPhones antenna band.
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Wow...free bumpers from Apple already.

Try Ghost Armor. www.ghost-armor.com

It includes protection along the sides.
 
mKTank said:
Apple clearly made a mistake with this design and they themselves admitted it.
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Who said they maid a mistake? They likely made a deliberate choice. Of course it seems they underestimated how much people would care this. So, one could argue they made a mistake in underestimating this.

But then again, I guess, Toyota underestimated how much Americans would care about the gas pedal issue. But unfortunately it is not really possible to take out an insurance agains media panic.

See, some people don't like the weight of the iPhone 4, some don't like its vibrating sound, some don't like that it has for them a somewhat higher rate of dropped phone calls. In all cases, this concerns only a very, very small minority of customers. As a manufacturer you just take the phone back, smile at the customer and forget about the issue as you still cannot make enough phones as you could sell.
 
Yamcha said:
I think the reason we are seeing this issue is because in the video his thumb is covering up that opening.. Could potentially be an issue to some people.. But at this point I mean its to be expected, all phones have an issue with this, maybe they may not be as bad as the iPhone 4, but I think its just a design flaw, and hopefully in the future Apple will have it officially resolved.. But either way reception is going to be an issue, it is a phone after all
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Yeah, iLounge really cheated on this one. They clearly were hitting the new 'hot spot' at the top of the phone, while saying nothing about it. Nor did they display in dB, instead of bars, nor did they do a data speed test. All these things make sense to perform, instead of a lame video.

Hugging a phone so tightly that you block the phone's screen? LOL

Let's see how many dB it dropped and then try a location where you are at 5 bars...3 or 4 bars is not a 'fair signal' it is near the bottom.

pretty sad. Maybe he should try the same death grip around his neck...and see if he can still breathe! Did your air intake go from 5 bars to 1? Complain to your parents that you are defective!
 
If I put my phone into a faraday cage, the signal is crap!

Seriously, don't cover every inch of the antenna and expect it to work.
 
Do NOT use a death grip when using iPhone 4

Either return it and go with a droid or something else.

Or

Suck it up and deal with it.

Maybe it was that over priced wedding band you had on your finger that interfered with the reception...................
 
manu chao said:
Who said they maid a mistake? They likely made a deliberate choice. Of course it seems they underestimated how much people would care this. So, one could argue they made a mistake in underestimating this.

But then again, I guess, Toyota underestimated how much Americans would care about the gas pedal issue. But unfortunately it is not really possible to take out an insurance agains media panic.

See, some people don't like the weight of the iPhone 4, some don't like its vibrating sound, some don't like that it has for them a somewhat higher rate of dropped phone calls. In all cases, this concerns only a very, very small minority of customers. As a manufacturer you just take the phone back, smile at the customer and forget about the issue as you still cannot make enough phones as you could sell.
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