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Ok honestly... I've sat here trying to reproduce this for the past 10 minutes. Coming from a Motorola Droid, the iPhone TO ME has a lot better signal. Ah well, if I'm able to get a free bumper out of this I'm all for it.
 
No. One can not touch antenna on other phones therefore the tightness of the grip does not matter on them.
Touching the antenna or no, GOOGLE IT YOURSELF. Other phones (both GSM and CDMA) have the same attenuation when you do a death grip.

Go seek professional help for your OCD.
 
Having the antenna on the outside, is still one of the most ludicrous design features I have ever heard of for a phone.

It had better be gone in iPhone 5.

Yes other phones can do it, not as badly though, and you have to squeeze the phone in both hands, I can cripple my phone with 1 finger.

No Im not going to get a different phone, I feel this negative is out weighed by the positives. And yes, I hold my phone 'Different' now. :D
 
I call it "The Retard Grip"!!!

Come on people, did you see how he is holding the phone?

What retard :eek: would hold thier phone like that? He is holding it as if he is holdding on to it for his life...
 
I have been really curious about something. Why is it that so many Mac users act like a brain-dead, kool-aid drinking cult follower. So many of you act as though apple and steve jobs are the same thing/things as God? No man is perfect and no company is either. And any time that there is any mention or report of a problem with either steve jobs or with any apple product/decision, you guys freak out like a bunch of militant islamic fundamentalists? I really have come to believe that it is a cult! And those of you who are cult members are a bunch of brain-dead, mindless, dangerous followers. Get over it people. steve jobs is just a man. I will admit that he is a very intelligent man, but still, just a man. Put down the kool-aid and the mouse and back away. Go find yourselves a really good shrink with experience in dealing with people like yourselves. You guys could just go to guyana and buy some land... create yourselves a compound and a church. Instead of Jesus, Buddha, or Mohammed, you guys could have sj as your saviour. Maybe you could have a secret handshake. Maybe your church could be in the shape of an original iMac. But whatever it is that you do, get help!
 
No. One can not touch antenna on other phones therefore the tightness of the grip does not matter on them.

That's not true. They may not be on the exterior like the iPhone 4's is, but they can only be as far away from the hand as half the thickness of the phone (if it's in the very center).. Squeezing over wherever the antenna is will result in the SAME attenuation.
 
My daughter just dropped my Verizon iPhone three feet and the glass broke! Why didn't Apple fix this!

Oh wait she dropped my AT&T iPhone, so that explains why the glass broke.

Crap, she just dropped my Verizon iPhone three feet and the glass broke too!

I may need to file a glass-action suit against Apple, anyone want to join me?
 
...and when the phone is placed in a pelican case, submerged in 500 feet of water in the Northern Pacific...c'mon, first of all who holds their phone in that "death grip" position? Who are these geeks making these videos, I want their job!!!
 
Apple loves to be famous.

Now they will forever be known as the company that discovered the Death Grip.

They proved their competitors came equipped with the same wonderful feature.

Case sales soared and everyone lived happily ever after.

Well maybe not everyone :eek:

Apple Inc... what a hilarious bunch
 
Again, all it takes is the touch of a finger. This 'hug' crap is wrong.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T90RwVaWfqo

Here we go again mKTank. With 5 bars it works just find, even with one finger on the phone.

Just to prove you wrong and illustrate the nature of the problem here is the video again.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vf5-sMP2ed0

Shows lack of antena-gate, when iPhone 4 has good 5 bars or -54dBm and -68 dBm ( 2 examples). No loss in signal (dB) or data speed stoppage. Also shows result with Bumper on. 5 bars begins around -78dBm and goes up to -40dBm (approximately). I found that weaker signals than -72dBm ( i.e. 4 bars) will show antenna-gate in loss of dB ( 22dB) and stoppage of data speeds.

This explains why some see antennagate and others do not.
 
The thing WHY there was no signal drop during the hands on on the Verizon iPhone announcement is that they had a strong signal. So even if the detuning of the antenna affects the reception the bigger problem is the hand that covers the antenna completely. The damn signal strength is reduced by the flesh of the hand. Is this that hard to understand? Why do they have to exaggerate it by covering the phone (in an uncofortable way of holding it I never seen before) in a way it makes it unusable?

Expectations not met? Just return it but don't blame the seller for your attempt to use it while covering the phone completely with your hands.

Ever tried to use a phone in a Faraday Cage? NO? Why not? You know it wont work? Ahhh, I see common sense but why cant you use your common sense here? Ahh I see you want to get attention (and sell your ads).

Great!
Well said.
 
Get real already people

I love how people are taking the iPhone and completely coverings it antennas and expecting it to work as if there was no obstruction. For those of you that blab and complain about how the design is flawed need to do your homework. As Steve Jobs has shown if you cover the antenna of any smartphone the signal is going to degrade. On top of that being a computer engineer and working with antennas and wireless signals I completely agree with him not because I am an apple fan but because its thats are the types of results you should see with any smartphone when covering the antennas completely. Do me a favor all you that want to complain and bad mouth it, DONT BUY THE iPHONE!!! Buy a brand that has no complaints about it (good luck) and just stay away because your all annoying with your stupid "death grip" reasonings. As a side note: Apple your doing great at everything you do and I cant wait for the next line of macs to come out and def cant wait for the next iPhone.
 
ugh! so my samsung cell.. I sat on it and guess what.. I lost connection!!! guess that will teach me for trying to talk out of my :rolleyes:
 
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This guy is a moron. No one death hugs their phone like that.. And his version of the death grip covers the top black bars.. He should consider doing something more
constructive with his life.. Moron!
 
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