Having never lived in such conditions, I can't possibly understand what they are going through.
I am just personally curious how many of the reports of factory (or related deaths) have more to do with the employee pushing themselves, more than it is forced conditions by their employer. I am in no way defending Apple, Foxcon, or any other manufacturer in this regard, I am simply personally curious if there are other reasons, in addition to the abuse these headlines focus on.
and the victim blaming begins.I understand, and respect that laws are in place to protect both the workers and the companies, and the fact that this is a real problem. That said, I am curious how many of these accidental deaths are due to other types of pressure. The lure to make as much money possible for yourself or your family can cause people to push themselves too hard at times.
Why do you keep applying laws from the wrong countries? Are you expecting to change China's govt from posts on MR?As far as I know, US law disagrees very strongly with you, UK law disagrees very strongly with you, and German law disagrees very strongly with you. For example, let's say you are in the USA, you sell your car to a 17 year old, who drives it, crashes it into a tree without insurance, and comes back to you saying "I changed my mind, I think I don't want to buy that car". Guess what happens: You are going to return the money and get your crashed car back.
It's a synonym.
So, the "c" is for child labour?
iPhone 5c. Made by children, for children.
Why do you keep applying laws from the wrong countries? Are you expecting to change China's govt from posts on MR?
You are right, but after 5 tenagers the bell is more than ringing.
I mean, there must be something going on, right?
Does anybody else realize how ridiculous it is in general to try to criminalize those who wish to work? If someone on a voluntary basis wants to work, what right does the government have to prevent them from doing so?
They're not slaves being worked to death, they're choosing to work long hours because the alternative is so much worse.
The contrast is striking:
Photo of Nelson Mandela on the front page of a technology company's website in a shameless PR stunt, followed by news that another of that company's major suppliers engages in underage slave labor.
Oh, and that company remains silent, even though it has the most clout of any technology company in history. Maybe they'll look into it with a committee meeting or something. The good democrat Tim Cook is hoping the news fades quickly, so he can return to his hypocrisy.
I quote you 100%.
At Apple they surely know what happens in China factories, they just don't care about it at all and probably could do little about it. China is a dictatorship. And also holds most of USA debt.
Only way to change things is to stop buying everything that is made in China.
Pretty tough to achieve.
Yap, why stop at 15? If a 8 years by wants to work, why the government must stop that?
Right, they can choose, they can be like slaves or they can starve. It is just their choice, nobody forces them to work 80 hours a week tio earn a misery
Hmm, well, you need to change this opinion. It's not valid.I think it is quite reasonable to assume that something that is wrong according to the laws of three countries is wrong according to the laws of a fourth country as well.
and the victim blaming begins.
I agree with the presenter on NPR, that pressure should be put on Apple (and other parent companies hiring Foxcon and the likes) to increase wages for these employees, so they don't feel like they need to push themselves so hard, and work so many hours to make ends meet.
Perhaps. But higher wages have some disadvantages as well. If they are much higher than the "market rate", there will be even more abuse from workers trying to get these high-paying jobs. And they may still want to work too many hours to earn as much money as they can. I don't think there's a simple answer to a rather complex problem.
Then I suggest you head over to reddit, this is for the adults.
In all seriousness, care to elaborate why you disagree? The company should be punished if it broke labor laws but he should NOT be considered a 'minor' considering he gave a fake ID. Oh, and his employment was voluntary.