Deconstructing the Anti-Glare VS Glossy myth. AKA beware of liars.

[GGJstudios]

I am not biased towards Glossy

All your posts say otherwise.

To me looks matter, so I chose the one that gives me the most eye candy.

Biased: implying that glossy looks better than antiglare, which is subjective.

There is no real reason to hate glossy except out of anger. (which is an illogical mind state in itself) So if you are an angry person, and something as simple as mere reflections (!) are enough to make you want to dilute your overall experience, thats fine.

Ridiculously biased: implying that the dislike of reflections indicates anger

When you recommend AG to people, let them know that they are choosing to give up some vibrancy too.

Bias: whether the the glossy screen is more or less vibrant is subjective.

I am not biased, I just like nice things

Bias: implying that AG screens are not nice, which is subjective

hit to color vibrancy and sharpness is more of a downside than reflection.

Bias: whether the AG is a "hit to color vibrancy and sharpness" is subjective.

is more of a downside than reflection.

Bias: whether reflection is a downside and how important that factor may be is subjective.

Bottom line: your posts demonstrate a very distinct and strong bias toward glossy, and a very distinct and strong bias against antiglare. Your opinion is exactly that: one opinion. It carries no more weight than a pro-antiglare opinion.

No, I am popular because, like Jesus, I speak the truth.

When did this happen? Quote, please. I've searched the thread and can't find where you spoke the truth.

It is, however, entertaining.

Believe me, if I weren't bored today, I wouldn't give this thread a 2nd look. I've never seen any glossy/antiglare thread that offered anything new. I absolutely know I won't change the OP's viewpoint, since he's obviously of the opinion, "My mind's made up; don't confuse me with the facts!" If he were really such a great thinker and speaker of truth, he would be able to see how biased he is. Anyone with basic reasoning skills and reading comprehension can read his posts and see his agenda is to promote glossy and demote antiglare..... as if it matters!

 

[MuDPHuDStudent]

No, I am popular because, like Jesus, I speak the truth.

People are attracted to truth.

And this is where the wheels come off the wagon. Delusions of grandeur, much?

 

[Al Coholic]

I can shave and read Google news at the same time.

Glossy all the way bay-beeeeee!

 

[kappaknight]

Everyone picking AG is an A to B kinda guy. And they are going around giving one-size-fits-all advice to people who are; "the point of life boils down to the pursuit of happiness" kind of guys who would have otherwise enjoyed a Glossy screen more, because its more aesthetically pleasing, nobody's debating that fact, but now we have a whole polarizing debate.

I don't think any one of us that owns multiple Apple products is an A to B kind of person. At some point, we went WAY past needs and fulfilled a lot of our wants.

Honestly, debating this is like the Special Olympics, it doesn't matter who wins, all participants are still ret___....

Back to you though - you really need to go live in Africa or some third world country for a few months to get a larger world view or something. Just because your dad lived on a farm is a practical person, doesn't mean his view of the world is wrong. In fact, we all have different opinions, which is why so many options exist out there.

That actually reminds me... Prego or Ragu at one point wanted to find the PERFECT home made spaghetti sauce recipe and spent a ton of time doing focus groups, interviews, taste tests to see which recipe would win. In the end, they found out there was no one perfect recipe, and ended up offering over 20 to 30 different types of spaghetti sauces as a result. See where I'm going with this?

All I gotta say is I'm glad you don't work for Apple. I wouldn't want you to kill off the AG line based purely on your opinion. Granted, I also don't appreciate that Apple thinks AG is better than Glossy and is therefore charging a premium for it, but that's another debate for another day.

 

[squeakr]

I'll settle this. Everyone get a 13" MBP. No screen choice that way. Debate settled.

 

[GGJstudios]

I'll settle this. Everyone get a 13" MBP. No screen choice that way. Debate settled.

Too small! Wait! That's another opinion!

 

[johnnj]

And this is where the wheels come off the wagon. Delusions of grandeur, much?

Yeah, we reached both of those milestones quite some time ago, possibly in another thread of his.

Oh... and as 5:00pm approaches in the US time zones, I predict that traffic and postings on this thread will drop off greatly.

 

[johnnj]

i'll settle this. Everyone get a 13" mbp. No screen choice that way. Debate settled.:d

blasphemer!!!!!

 

[GGJstudios]

Oh... and as 5:00pm approaches in the US time zones, I predict that traffic and postings on this thread will drop off greatly.

Bias: implying that most of those who have or will post in this thread are from the US, or are at work, or get off work at 5PM, or....

 

[squeakr]

This coming from someone using a 15" 2.3 with AG, so no bias in my suggestion.

 

[johnnj]

Bias: implying that most of those who have or will post in this thread are from the US, or are at work, or get off work at 5PM, or....

You're damn right on all counts. See? I can admit that I'm biased. I can also accept that not everyone is here, at work, or works until 5. You other guys and gals are perfectly within their rights to be wherever and do whatever they want. They also do need me to tell them that they're equal. Some of them may also be better than me, however unlikely.

 

[johnnj]

This coming from someone using a 15" 2.3 with AG, so no bias in my suggestion.

My sig is a lie. I'm an undercover operative in the GIA (Glossy Idiocy Agency).

I have an extra-glossy (you need clearance to get access to that technology) 16", also classified.

 

[rdowns]

 

[GGJstudios]

There's my reward for putting up with this nonsense for this long! Thank you!

 

[Bobby Corwen]

All your posts say otherwise.
Actually I found them to be of a neutral, objective nature.


Biased: implying that glossy looks better than antiglare, which is subjective.
Actually youd be suprised that if you studied biology, that scientifically, biologically and psychological, all human beings are attracted to shiny things. The specimen who does not recognize this appeal is operating under ulterior objectives (such as cynycism) and not operating on their natural desires. Humans, like squirrels are attracted to shiny things. Steve Jobs can tell you this phenomenon is a fact.

Ridiculously biased: implying that the dislike of reflections indicates anger
Anger is a very broad generic term. It can be argued that many people have generally negative, insecure, life out looks based out of fear and survival. A lower sub-hierarchy of needs
Bias: whether the the glossy screen is more or less vibrant is subjective.
Its not dude, ive seen it. Cmon dawg.
Bias: implying that AG screens are not nice, which is subjective
correction, not as nice, despite the degree of it, there is a difference
Bias: whether the AG is a "hit to color vibrancy and sharpness" is subjective.
again see above
Bias: whether reflection is a downside and how important that factor may be is subjective.
repeating yourself to cheap extents disregarding the reality of our existance is not THAT subjective. Youre trying break down concepts to the point that it becomes useless and meaningless. It doesnt really help you make a point. Its just arbitrary. Nice try though.
Bottom line: your posts demonstrate a very distinct and strong bias toward glossy, and a very distinct and strong bias against antiglare. Your opinion is exactly that: one opinion. It carries no more weight than a pro-antiglare opinion.
again, i have not given my opinion, i have given everybody's opinion. You use the term bias when you should be using the word opinion. Bias is usefully referenced in negative connotation for example when someone GIVES BIASED ADVICE
When did this happen? Quote, please. I've searched the thread and can't find where you spoke the truth.
only real recognizes real. you might have read it and not even recognized it as truth

Believe me, if I weren't bored today, I wouldn't give this thread a 2nd look. I've never seen any glossy/antiglare thread that offered anything new. I absolutely know I won't change the OP's viewpoint, since he's obviously of the opinion, "My mind's made up; don't confuse me with the facts!" If he were really such a great thinker and speaker of truth, he would be able to see how biased he is. Anyone with basic reasoning skills and reading comprehension can read his posts and see his agenda is to promote glossy and demote antiglare..... as if it matters!

My agenda is defense, not offense. I just happened to notice that this was a very interesting psychological allegory and anomaly. The human mind is very complex and cultured to societal patterns. We are all simply the totality of our socially transmitted behavior patterns, arts, beliefs, morals, ideas, institutions, and all other products of human work and thought.

I came here and noticed the bias. Then I asked myself why? The answer to that question I found was quite an interesting dynamic and allegorical to greater aspects of the human condition with deep origins rooted in fear and insecurity and the interplay between fear and confidence.

I would explain how it all ties in but its too complicated...

Just know that if you think my psychological knowledge is bs, my question to you is why did I make myself rich off of this type of knowledge and human study? (sales)

 

[hatersgonnahate]

i have anti glare. whenever people with glossy screens look at my screen, i can see the jealousy in their faces.

 

[GGJstudios]

Your refusal to admit that you are biased, which any reader of this thread can see, makes you less interesting to debate with, so I've grown bored enough with your obtuse arguments that I won't waste the time to repeat what I've already said. I'll leave you to your delusions.

I will address one glaringly inaccurate generalization that you made, that all human beings are attracted to shiny things. If that were true, Harley-Davidson wouldn't be making millions with their Dark Custom line of blacked-out, non-reflective painted, minimally chromed motorcycles. This is just one of hundreds of examples of manufacturers appealing to those who prefer non-shiny things.

Just know that if you think my psychological knowledge is bs...

Glad you brought it up, because it sure appears to be!

my question to you is why did I make myself rich off of this type of knowledge and human study? (sales)

If that statement is truthful (unverified), there's a simple explanation: "There's a sucker born every minute"

 

[amarcus]

Glossy is display + glass and anti-glare is display + layer of (scientific stuff) that dissipates light.

Please understand the underlying science before trying to "educate" the masses on which coating is better. Hint: Neither of the coatings are perfect.

Ultimately the decision is, and always will be down to the eyes of the observer. End this thread now, please.

Adam

 

[Bobby Corwen]

Your refusal to admit that you are biased, which any reader of this thread can see, makes you less interesting to debate with, so I've grown bored enough with your obtuse arguments that I won't waste the time to repeat what I've already said. I'll leave you to your delusions.

I will address one glaringly inaccurate generalization that you made, that all human beings are attracted to shiny things. If that were true, Harley-Davidson wouldn't be making millions with their Dark Custom line of blacked-out, non-reflective painted, minimally chromed motorcycles. This is just one of hundreds of examples of manufacturers appealing to those who prefer non-shiny things.

Glad you brought it up, because it sure appears to be!

If that statement is truthful (unverified), there's a simple explanation: "There's a sucker born every minute"

Well, thank you for your time.

 

[WesCole]

I have to admit, my 13" MacBook Pro with a glossy screen was not nearly as bad at showing reflections as my Alienware M11X, rev. 1. I am, however, going to get the high-def anti-glare screen on my new 15" MacBook Pro because I will be using it a lot outside and hardly ever do any photo work.

 

[Miss Terri]

Bottom line: your posts demonstrate a very distinct and strong bias toward glossy, and a very distinct and strong bias against antiglare.

But GGJstudios, don't you see that only by selecting the glossy screen do you get to enjoy the the screen in "it is" True Form™? I can't believe you overlooked that important datum

GLOSSY
Pros: Enjoyable vibrant beautiful screen in it's true form.

Miss Terri
MBP 13" with it is True Form™ enjoyable vibrant beautiful screen

 

[Bobby Corwen]

I will take the high road and not make derogatory comments aimed at you or your intelligence. I have never stated one is better than the other, but anyone who comments on your faulty logic is automatically stereo-typed by you. You didn't even have a logical rebuttal. Show where i said anything against or for either screen type in my post that would show I was for a certain type that would merit your comment.

Ok sorry I called you janky.

I searched and I searched and I couldn't find anything to catch you in. You were flawless. When I am wrong I am wrong, I'll be the first one to admit it. I'm all about keeping things fair and seeing both sides of the story. I always try to have an open mind and think: "hmm I wonder if I'm wrong and they are right." I'm always keeping a sound, functional perspective like that with the highest objective being pursuit of truth. This time, I have to be honest and say that I could not find even one example like you challenged me to so therefore you won that challenge. I take my hat off to you sir, and bow.

 

[chrono1081]

As someone who has tested countless monitors and calibrated them over the years, I can easily say glossy gives me the best color reproduction for my photography and digital art workflow. (Anyone who wants to try and nay say me don't even bother I know without a doubt I've tested more monitors than you.)

Physics proves that glossy gives more accurate color reproduction since glossy doesn't disperse light. That aside it all boils down to preferences since any pro knows how to work around the descrepenices from monitor to printer to whatever.

 

[deadlystriker]

Bobby, you should have returned your glossy within the 14 day period and ordered a matte, so you wouldn't be trying to make yourself feel better about glossy and this thread would not exist.

 

[squeakr]

Thanks. It was a big move of you to do this. I like you am just for the truth, but without verifiable data this is just a matter of opinion and no one's is better than another.