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Deff Cleave/DRACO IV Aluminum Bumper for iPhone 4 Discussion & Questions Thread

^^ I completely understand your issue and I was in the same boat so I returned mine as well. Draco will need to step it up.
 
An AMAZING case this is!

I do have a FULL body BSE so the fit is super tight. The mute switch doesn't work because the case is to tight. Buttons wiggle a bit, but work fine.

The case is sexy, but it does give a hit to reception. Even with the skin.

I drop 1-2 bars, WiFi stays the same or drops 1 bar.

What to do? lol

-EDIT The mute switch just needs force. I'm scared it may break, but it's usable. Man the case feels and looks great. Forget reception! lol
 
kvizzel said:
An AMAZING case this is!

I do have a FULL body BSE so the fit is super tight. The mute switch doesn't work because the case is to tight. Buttons wiggle a bit, but work fine.

The case is sexy, but it does give a hit to reception. Even with the skin.

I drop 1-2 bars, WiFi stays the same or drops 1 bar.

What to do? lol

-EDIT The mute switch just needs force. I'm scared it may break, but it's usable. Man the case feels and looks great. Forget reception! lol
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Why have a cell phone if you can't get reception?

I really want to keep mine. I was debating if i should just buy a regular plastic/rubber bumper of certain times and use the Draco IV if i want to show it off...

However, the reasoning is silly because this case cost a lot and it doesn't make sense to use it "sometimes"...
 
Superus said:
Why have a cell phone if you can't get reception?

I really want to keep mine. I was debating if i should just buy a regular plastic/rubber bumper of certain times and use the Draco IV if i want to show it off...

However, the reasoning is silly because this case cost a lot and it doesn't make sense to use it "sometimes"...
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I'm only losing 1-2 bars still steady at 2-3 bars. As long as I still have service I'm happy. No real change in WiFi. Have yet to test GPS.

It's a great case, and it feels great in the hand.

I'd take pictures, but... my only camera is the IP4. lol. Sorry guys.
 
This is by far my favorite form factor case. BUT... for a week now, I've been suffering from signal loss and gps issues. Really bummed. It's definitely the Draco IV case. I'll have to either return it or ebay it. Such an amazing case, but some areas, I literally had no signal with the case on. Oh well. Luck of the draw.
 
Superus said:
I have the Draco IV Limited edition White on my White iPhone 4s. It looks really good. I received tons of compliments on the case. I also get people in my class staring at my phone. I have not complaints on the looks or the quality.

BUT!

I think i'm going to return it back. The main reason is the signal issue. IN school i used to make calls in certain spots... with this case on i can't make a call in school for the life of me. At home, i typically have 2-3 Bars and full wifi strength. With the case on i'm at 1 bar to no bars with a decrease in wifi signal.
At my Gym i have full bars 3G and i could stream di.fm app on my phone. With the case on i drop down 3-4 bars but i still have 3G and could still stream music.

I really love this case and i hate to return it. but, what's the point of having a beautiful case if you can't even receive a phone call or text msg?
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I'm in the same boat, got mine yesterday but the signal issue is too much to overlook for a $60 case.

There's also the fact that the headphone jack from my Beats Pros don't fit.
 
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Yep... No GPS at all. It won't even find my location. :(

Now that's depressing since I use it daily. Damnnn!!!

Edit- you guys know of the element case tools and screws would also fit? I'd love a keychain tool that also held extra screws. Thanks!
 
kvizzel said:
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Yep... No GPS at all. It won't even find my location. :(

Now that's depressing since I use it daily. Damnnn!!!

Edit- you guys know of the element case tools and screws would also fit? I'd love a keychain tool that also held extra screws. Thanks!
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I actually just bought an (what looks like) authentic Element Vapor Pro Stealth Edition with a Black Carbon back off Ebay for $60. If it's a fake, it's a pretty damn convincing one, with all the paperwork, certificate of authenticity, fancy box, everything that would come with it if I bought the real deal off Element's site. I popped off my Draco IV, popped on the Element and I just got a Field Test read at home from my 4s that is (5 bars / -78). I was only getting 2 bars at home. Welcome back. I'm stoked.
 
If you bought it from ebay there's a 70% chance is FAKE if made in China but you can't go wrong if the case fit very tight but there's no way I will be rocking a fake case on a $400.00 iphone. Just my two cents. Oh!!! almost forgot our iPhones are made in China :D:D:D

eg2007 said:
I actually just bought an (what looks like) authentic Element Vapor Pro Stealth Edition with a Black Carbon back off Ebay for $60. If it's a fake, it's a pretty damn convincing one, with all the paperwork, certificate of authenticity, fancy box, everything that would come with it if I bought the real deal off Element's site. I popped off my Draco IV, popped on the Element and I just got a Field Test read at home from my 4s that is (5 bars / -78). I was only getting 2 bars at home. Welcome back. I'm stoked.
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This is what dracodesigninc told me on an email about difference between real and fake.

"If the name is Cleave, then it’s fake because Cleave brand is only used in Japan. For product itself, the fake has very poor quality."

 
Really bummed to read all this issue on the reception.

Was really hoping to pick this one up for my naked red iPhone. :(
 
zelaya said:
If you bought it from ebay there's a 70% chance is FAKE if made in China but you can't go wrong if the case fit very tight but there's no way I will be rocking a fake case on a $400.00 iphone. Just my two cents. Oh!!! almost forgot our iPhones are made in China :D:D:D
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If it's fake, I don't believe it. Thing looks mint. NO reception issues. Very happy.

Can't even get IGearUSA to respond about an RMA for the Draco IV. Not surprised. I knew what I was getting into. Maybe I'll use my authentic Draco on a fake iPhone (kidding).

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ThunderApple said:
Really bummed to read all this issue on the reception.

Was really hoping to pick this one up for my naked red iPhone. :(
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I hear ya. I'm was bummed but, it's really the luck of the draw. Some people have no issues. I would literally walk into a local mall and I suddenly had no signal, or if I did, people kept saying my connection was bad. Welcome to the world of aluminum cases. :)
 
I bought a fake Cleave.

Tell you the truth, quality is pretty good. fits perfectly.

I bought one of these and an element vapor pro.

I dont see a problem with buying these "fakes". They work just fine, looks just as great, and ill tell you, 99.99% of the people you see wont know its fake.
 
just received and installed my black draco 4 from igearusa on my black 4s today and wow it is amazing...so sleek and sexy :) had 4 bars without it and now it fluctuates between 3 and 4. not that big of a deal for me. might get some tape to stop the button rattles though
 
DK1ng said:
just received and installed my black draco 4 from igearusa on my black 4s today and wow it is amazing...so sleek and sexy :) had 4 bars without it and now it fluctuates between 3 and 4. not that big of a deal for me. might get some tape to stop the button rattles though
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Did they end up giving you a tracking order or update status? I placed my order last week friday and still haven't got the tracking. I called them today and they said that it has been shipped yesterday but no tracking information is available.
 
eg2007 said:
If it's fake, I don't believe it. Thing looks mint. NO reception issues. Very happy.

Can't even get IGearUSA to respond about an RMA for the Draco IV. Not surprised. I knew what I was getting into. Maybe I'll use my authentic Draco on a fake iPhone (kidding).

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I hear ya. I'm was bummed but, it's really the luck of the draw. Some people have no issues. I would literally walk into a local mall and I suddenly had no signal, or if I did, people kept saying my connection was bad. Welcome to the world of aluminum cases. :)
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I am in the same situation. I have sent them three emails about returning it and have not gotten a single response over the past week. It completely killed my signal. I could not even place a call with it on.
 
dtjay7 said:
I am in the same situation. I have sent them three emails about returning it and have not gotten a single response over the past week. It completely killed my signal. I could not even place a call with it on.
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why aren't you guys calling them? I called them today morning and the customer service girl picked up in 2 minutes. maybe that will help. I have also tried sending them emails with no response. Not really happy with the company or their customer service.
 
^ sucks to hear you are not happy w/ your draco. At least I know I won't be shopping from igearusa.com if they ignore customers like that. I ordered mine from tekcases.com and haven't had a case where I needed to return, so time will tell.
 
I have a Verizon 4S and my husband has a Verizon 4 and they both lose signal when they are in the case. It is too bad also because it does look great.
 
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