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wako said:
You obviously take americans lightly, dont know about the rest of the world but Americans will buy anything as long as there is a reason to

Are you saying you don't think this monitor will put a dent in apple's 30" display sales?


If it's the same panel and a brighter backlight again I can see this thing taking off. Although there are a lot of people using this for Illustrator/Quark/Photoshop, there are also a lot of people who just need a giant monitor for large spreadsheets and such. And if it's the exact same model in an uglier case for less money, I think most companies would go for the cheap one.
 
quite classy
if i have the $$$ ide def go for it if itt looks like that when it comes out
 
if this comes out for say... 1999, which seems reasonable compared to dell's pricing cuts over the other two apple displays, i imagine apple will have a hard time selling enough 30"s.

remeber, apple gets a LOT of PC customers on the 30" (in terms of percent bought, there aren't a LOT of 30"s sold anyway) because there ARE no other 30"s out there to buy. if this comes out at a significantly lower price, i reckon 90% or more of the PC customers will be lost for apple.
 
wako said:
You obviously take americans lightly, dont know about the rest of the world but Americans will buy anything as long as there is a reason to

Life is good isn't it?

In the time to come China will have more money, own big business in the US itself, AND has the superior number of nukes to keep it that way :rolleyes:

Americans will then be born and breed like cattle, to keep slogging their lives away, racking up huge quantities of debt, and spending every last dime they earn on cheap mass produced chinese products sold at high inflated American prices!
 
I think they should have made the LCD housing be the same color as the cool stand. The silver is nicer than the black, IMHO. I would probably get a 2005FPW if they were available in silver. Black shows all the dust and everything. :(
 
radiantmark said:
Doesn't the 20" on both use the same exact panel? How is that lesser quality? I know the aluminum casing is much better quality than the cheap plastic dell casings.

Cinema displays are SWOP certified. I have a feeling that Dell is using the exact same 30" panel as well. I mean how many 30" (2560x1600) panel makers are there? So considering they both have the same quality panels, and apple has a much better casing (along with FW ports), I'd rather buy the Cinema display. But that's just me.

Yea same screen but the Dell has more inputs..... although I agree the apple cinema has a much nice case. But how much is that worth to you?
 
davidcb13 said:
Yea same screen but the Dell has more inputs..... although I agree the apple cinema has a much nice case. But how much is that worth to you?

A lot when I consider the fact that I need to transport my display once in awhile. :) This stuff is all tax deductible for the professionals anyways so a few hundred more for the apple display is a no brainer, IMO. (how else could I convince my wife to let me get one? :p )
 
davidcb13 said:
Why would professionals chose a lesser quality more expensive product? assuming this new dell follows the same pattern as the 20" and 23" have

Wow now, the 20 inch models do use the same panels, their quality are the same. The Apple display just costs more. On the other hand, I haven't ever heard that Dell's 24 is of higher quality then Apple's 23. It would have to be pretty spectacular to be of higher quality then the 23.

davidcb13 said:
Yea same screen but the Dell has more inputs..... although I agree the apple cinema has a much nice case. But how much is that worth to you?

Errr, the Dell doesn't have FireWire. I couldn't care less about a 9 in 1 card reader, but FW is very important to me.
 
rickvanr said:
Wow now, the 20 inch models do use the same panels, their quality are the same. The Apple display just costs more. On the other hand, I haven't ever heard that Dell's 24 is of higher quality then Apple's 23. It would have to be pretty spectacular to be of higher quality then the 23.

Errr, the Dell doesn't have FireWire. I couldn't care less about a 9 in 1 card reader, but FW is very important to me.

umm, you do realize that the dell has svideo, componant, composite, vga, and dvi in compared to the acd's which only have dvi? this is important to me because hook a vcr up to it and there you have a tv; you can also hook video game systems into it, these are all things you can't to with an acd. the dells are also alot brighter.

there's alot more to an lcd then just the lcd, the dell is a much better display, and it is much cheaper. all you have to live with is cheap dell styling.
 
rickvanr said:
Errr, the Dell doesn't have FireWire. I couldn't care less about a 9 in 1 card reader, but FW is very important to me.

Errr, there is a FW port behind your Mac.. or put another way, the monitor does not have a FW hub in itself, it is basically an extension cable.

The price difference can buy you carton loads worth of PCIe FW controllers.
 
plinkoman said:
umm, you do realize that the dell has svideo, componant, composite, vga, and dvi in compared to the acd's which only have dvi? this is important to me because hook a vcr up to it and there you have a tv; you can also hook video game systems into it, these are all things you can't to with an acd. the dells are also alot brighter.

there's alot more to an lcd then just the lcd, the dell is a much better display, and it is much cheaper. all you have to live with is cheap dell styling.

I buy a computer monitor to plug into my computer and my ACD is pretty bright compared to other monitors I've owned.

generik said:
Errr, there is a FW port behind your Mac.. or put another way, the monitor does not have a FW hub in itself, it is basically an extension cable.

Umm, you plug into the one FireWire port, and the monitor has 2.
 
zach said:
if this comes out for say... 1999, which seems reasonable compared to dell's pricing cuts over the other two apple displays,


With the Apple at $2500, I see this Dell to list at $1799, sell everyday for $1499 and be offered for $1199 with coupons. Within 1 year it will be under $1000.

Of course this does not include a video card upgrade...

I think it's ugly that my iMac stand won't move up or down.
 
I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say that the price point will be between $1799 and $1999. Coupons will help you to get it between $1299 and $1499 depending on what Dell sets it at. I'll definitely pick one up at either of the discounted prices.
 
rickvanr said:
I buy a computer monitor to plug into my computer and my ACD is pretty bright compared to other monitors I've owned.

Um...I DO have the Dell 2405, and have used the ACD 23'' extensively...no question: For quality, performance, well hell, for everything, the Dell PWNS the ACD. Don't knock on the Dells unless you've tried them. The truth is, FOR THE PRICE/QUALITY, ACD's aren't even in the same league.
 
Veritas&Equitas said:
Um...I DO have the Dell 2405, and have used the ACD 23'' extensively...no question: For quality, performance, well hell, for everything, the Dell PWNS the ACD. Don't knock on the Dells unless you've tried them. The truth is, FOR THE PRICE/QUALITY, ACD's aren't even in the same league.

This is absolute BS.
 
wako said:
You obviously take americans lightly, dont know about the rest of the world but Americans will buy anything as long as there is a reason to
Didn't you mean "but Americans will buy anything as long as there is no reason to"? ;) :p :D
 
the future said:
This is absolute BS.
Why is it BS? Is it the comment or the facts. I own neither, but I would have to say that for my budget, if I could get on par quality for a lesser price point I would be very interested. I spend my days asking potential customers this question: "If I could deliver 90-95% of the quality for 70% of the price, would you be interested in buying?"

I think the same holds true here. Apple will have their hand forced here. There is not that large of a premium (IMO) for an aluminum enclosure.
 
kkapoor said:
It's absolute BS because some people need to be able to justify their ACD purchases.

Not really. Price aside, which does contribute to quality, the 23 inch ACD is a better quality display the the 24 Dell.
 
Capt Underpants said:
The 23" ACD's are notorious for quality issues. Remember the pink hue problems?

yeah there has been a lot of problems with the ACDs. Also Dell takes back monitors for dead pixels no questions asked.

I prefer the Dell Monitors to the ACDs by a large margin.

Also notice what iGary had to go through to get an actual working 30" ACD

Especially considering i have two computers and a Gamecube hooked into my 2005FPW
 
Megatron said:
What do people think about this:

http://www.engadget.com/entry/1234000240070831/

If it's at just a good a price as the 2005FWP, I think Apple is going to have some serious competition.
I dont think so. If its as just as good of a price as the 2005FWP then you would get 10 more inches for the same amount of dough. A nice monitor indeed though. Are you concidering buying it? That would look beautiful in anyones set-up, including mine:D
 
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