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Dell (and Others) Trying to Catch Up with Apple's Style

!¡ V ¡! said:
Not sure why Apple had to make the Al iMac have a black boarder, however I am not taking too well with it. They should have either made the entire computer Al similar to the MBP or keep the back border and use a darker Al composite. At present the Al iMac is the worst compared to its design history.
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I beg to differ. In fact, apart from the G5, I think this is the BEST iMac update they've had. I've seen a 17" Intel White iMac at school and gone home to my alum iMac about 30 minutes later and I honestly say that the alum iMac is MUCH better looking - and not just because I own one. I think the black border gives it a much more interesting design while still retaining the minimalism of Apple designs. Really, it's not bad. When I saw the unveiling pictures, I though "They look really ugly. REALLY ugly" but the design grew on me. They look SO much better in real life. They're beautiful and really aren't a step back in design. They're so nice. I really cannot agree with you in the slightest! Unless Apple comes out with a design that beats the current iMac in two years, I would place my bets on this being the nicest iMac design in competition with the G4 (Mainly due to it's bubbly character). There are literally no design problems with the current iMac at all. There is space for improvement, don't get me wrong, but there are no problems.

!¡ V ¡! said:
This is quite apparent with the iMac G5 and the Al iMac, the only other direction the industry can go in an all-in-one design is plaster the components as flat as possible to the screen. This design of the iMac is already stale. Same goes for a laptop, you can only make it so thin or rotate the screen and presto you have a tablet. Nothing new here folks.
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Well there is nowhere else to go. Apple managed to create an elegant design for their all in one and it's as compact as it can really be. Until Technology advances, all they can really do is make it as thin as possible and upgrade the features (I.E. Add a touch screen). You can't improve perfection ;)
 
I've been surfing Dell and I like one of the "features" of the XPS One: Finished Back Panel

Is that the best they could come up with? Too short of a list of features?

I also noticed no external monitor port. At least they could have added the VGA out like their laptops, and it would be up-to-date... for 2001!! Where's a digital video out??

As someone pointed out, can you imagine having some devices plugged into the sides of this thing? You need a spot 4 foot wide to put the thing.

And lastly, that cheap cable holder in the back! Please, is that the best you could come up with for $1349?!?
 
What's the saying??? Oh yeah... "You can not improve on perfection... unless you're Apple":p

Seriously tho... that Dell doesn't look as good as the iMacs.

Prof.:apple:
 
I give Dell kudos for at least trying at an All In One computer...but I think :apple: is still the best. Apple has been doing AIO computers for a long time, and they are masters at making them.

The most annoying thing about the XPS One IMO, is the lack of a dedicated video card in the base model...when the base model costs $150 more than a base model iMac...w/ a dedicated video card.
 
B3CK24 said:
I have to sell the XPS one at work (I work at Best Buy) and honestly, they are built pretty well after looking at them and I reaaaaaally love that they have the built in tracking pad on the keyboard just like the laptops, but thats about it. I always end up taking a customer over towards the Apple table to look at the iMac.

I'll give Dell one thing though, it is much MUCH better built than the lame excuse of an all in one by Gateway called the "one".. I have not sold one of those and I think I will refuse. They are thicker than my samsung lcd TV and the screen is so flimsy and you can actually press the lcds from the outside, what kind of BS is that..

Go :apple:
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You sound like one classy Best Buy employee (and not because you send people over the Apple). I get the impression you really try to help people make a good buying decision instead of just trying to sell something.
 
mac-er said:
You sound like one classy Best Buy employee (and not because you send people over the Apple). I get the impression you really try to help people make a good buying decision instead of just trying to sell something.
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Yeah good for you. Also, Best Buy employees don't work on commission.

I used to work at a flagship Apple Store and I'd always sell what's right for the customer. Within 2 years there, I developed a natural and keen sense of customer service. We didn't work on commission either, thank god.
 
hey, don't argue about it. it's all good for customers, right? windows users have also a right to own pretty PC too. I think that it is a good sight for the market. I hope that we won't see ugly PC the near the future soon. Apple design impact is big that many people admit. in terms of industrial design revolution from Apple, even ordinary purchasers consider design & form which is good. I hope that it will be spread all over the companies just like viruses, then keep developing to compete with other.
 
I find it interesting after all of these years and seeing how the success of the iMac has changed the computing industry, that Dell is now releasing the XPS One. The design is pretty slick, the specs look decent, but it pretty much bores me to tears. If this had been introduced 2 years ago, I would have been wowed and probably would have applauded Dell for creating an interesting computer. However, with the new Alu. iMac's already on the market, and Apple putting the perfect pricing on those computers along with specs that are comparable to the best PC's on the market, Dell just seems to late to a game that Apple has already played and won. I really believe Dell makes a good tower, and I would buy one in a heartbeat. However, I think they should stick to designing the those.
 
Padraig said:
It's a bit sad really isn't it, some of the comments. Personally I think the Dell and Gateway machine designs are horrible. At least Dell are finally trying to move in the right direction, and in my opinion they've succeeded with the m1330 (which I rate above the current Apple laptops). Hopefully, Apple will pull out a more contemporary design for the macbook pro in two weeks time.
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Finally a sensible, pragmatic comment. Apple has done very little in terms of improving the design of their computer hardware over the past several years; what was ahead of its time 2-3 years ago has become run of the mill, bordering on ho-hum. Perhaps this finally well get them off their asses/arses.
 
Mac.Jnr said:
Lol @ PC "fashion show."

I guess it is god the industry is trying to catch up, hopefully this will bring even better products from Apple.
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Maybe next Apple commercial will have PC changing into many different outfits. We seen him in drags already, so what's next?
 
Why doesn't Dell, and other computer companies try to make something better than Apple, rather than copying it! Seriously, every time Apple comes out with a new iPod, phone, computer, etc. you see a new phone commercial from verizon or a new computer commercial from Dell within a month!! And with the exact same features, just not as ingenious! :apple:
 
Yeah that XPS is pretty hideous for what it is supposed to do and those creepy commercial with the high little girl singing doesn't help their cause. VAIO wins in the PC world as far as design their compact laptops are pretty well done.
 
Other companies like Dell will never get it there designs are ugly(ecspaclly XPS 1)wont be as good as the iMacs their to bulky,big,and not so all in one
 
Not sure why Sony was mentioned, theyve been making stylish and simplistic computers under the VAIO brand 2 years longer than Apple and still make better looking stuff than Apple from time to time. Its ridiculous to assume they are trying to play catch up.

I remember seeing the first VAIO at Circuit City in 1996, I was blown away, no other computer (especially not Apple, who was still rocking beige) came close to how cool that thing looked, of course it had a price to match its elite look too though. I believe Sony was the first computer maker to think outside the box and say that computers shouldnt be boring, they should go with your interior decor just like your stereo systems instead of looking out of place.
 
i can't believe this guy who reviewed the Dell something said that the design exceeds :apple:'s iMac!!! This is ridiculous. The Dell is sooo ugly compared to the more-than-beautiful iMac.

I'm shocked!!
I hate Dell sooooo much:mad: Their computers are always so ugly.

Apple's the best. It'd be great for every other company to stop trying to copy Apple.
 
If Dell wants to keep up with Apple, try making machines worth a crap

Had 3 Dell's...two at home and one given to me by work...all three were some of the worst machines I ever used hence my moving to Apple soon after and now never looking back
 
The new Dell Crystal Monitor Is Pretty

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I like the circuits embedded in the glass and they even caught on to the notion of a single cable. The main Dell site has a flash intro with several views of it. I like that is has a well-hidden built in web cam as well The write-up: "Panel Performance
Amazing 1680 x 1050 resolution for stunning detail, fast 2-millisecond (gray to gray) response time for fluid motion, and a high 2000:1 contrast ratio. Dell Crystal features a 98%2 color gamut versus the 72% color gamut found on typical LCD monitors. View more color shades and tones than previously possible. Get vivid hues, remarkable depth and pictures bright enough for viewing under most lighting. Enjoy deeper reds, crisp blues and sparkling whites." It would be nicer if it were offered in other sizes other than 22".

Dell introduced a new 30" monitor today that looks better than their last version (which was okay) - albeit more conventional - and they've adopted a nice matte aluminum surround.
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High level specs ala CNET: "The image here doesn't do it justice, but the 3008WFP has a brushed aluminum housing that sits atop a glossy, flat base (say goodbye to the Flying V stand of last year's model). And the cantilever arm allows for more flexible positioning. 3008WFP boasts the standard dual DVI ports and an analog VGA port, but it also serves up HDMI and component connections, plus a DisplayPort connection. (You should begin seeing DisplayPort graphics cards in a month or two.) There are even composite and S-video ports, should you need to connect older devices. Rounding out the connection goodness are four USB ports and a media card reader. It features the same 2560x1600 native resolution of last year's model and an impressive 3000:1 contrast ratio."
 
just from looking at the picture, it still screams something other than apple.. the one thing i love about apple is how everything is seamless, no rough edges, just a sleek design..
 
I haven't chimed in for a while and I can see that the PC fanboys on this site are already starting to whine about our comments.

Just remember Windows lovers:

(1) We talked this topic to death month before when this thing was rumored and with the Gateway One.

(2) PC makers failed to compete because they aren't offering the features that were keeping many from switching to Apple; expandability, and practicality.

(3) Their models have less to offer compared to the iMac and are more expensive

(4) As another poster pointed out it's cheaper to get an iMac and Vista and just run it under Bootcamp, and you get away with two OSes and a better looking machine.

We do hope to see better designs from Apple, and the Dell M1330 and 1530 are good examples of how Dell is starting to care about industrial design, but the XPS One and Gateway One don't hit the mark when it comes to AIO designs. Even if you like the look, the price for what you get is what really kills it. You might as well get a tower.
 
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