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Of course. I do a few Architectural Renderings on the side and if I did more, I could certainly justify plunking down the cash for a high-end workstation. Sure, there are uses in the home that justify a machine like this, but we aren't necessarily "home users" in the marketing sense of the word, which is what I was alluding to. In the end it comes down to this. If you need a machine like this or the Mac Pro, you already know you need it, marketing isn't going to tell you that.
For just using email, internet browsing,... the MP does seem like a waste of money, when another lower cost Mac would work just fine. Those that have come from PC's, are used to having the ability to upgrade inidividual components quite easily though, and that's hard to give up. ;)

In general, the term "home users" is sort of ambiguous. So many possible definitions, and each individual likely has thier own. I've not seen anything that the majority of users would agree upon as a "home user" at any rate, and it makes things a bit confusing. :p

Hopefully, each individual examines their own situation, and makes a sound decision :), as ultimately, it's in their hands. :eek: And they're footing the bill. ;)

True, but much of the software that would take advantage of that is windows-only. It has always been prohibitively expensive for many on the Mac Pro, but at least it's been an option for those who needed it. And with bootcamp, you could use the windows drivers which would take advantage of it. So even if the Mac doesn't take advantage of it, it would be nice for it to be there anyway. It's a shame that the most powerful Mac doesn't offer this as an option. The Dell even offers dual cards.
Unfortunately, it seems Apple hasn't any interest beyond Boot Camp & implementing BIOS emulation (firmware) in providing any support for Windows use. They haven't created any drivers for their RAID cards for windows. Using this as a guide, it wouldn't surprise me that they applied the same logic to the professional graphics situation. They examined it from an OS X only POV, and it didn't pan out financially to continue providing such a card. :(
 
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Anyone got a map for all the wires inside?

There's nothing "Precise" about that... what a mess...
 
Large companies or universities that do very intensive 3D CAD purchase these workstations with that much memory.

When you are rendering very complex assemblies, you need that much memory to work productively.
Aerospace design is the best example who is buying them to assemble and test an entire plane virtually, there are million of parts to render.

There is a reason these are located in Dell's commercial section, and better located in the "Large Business" subheading of the commercial section.
They are not meant for home users hence why you can't buy it in the "Home" section.
Home users won't buy the T7500, unless they really, really want one.
 
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Anyone got a map for all the wires inside?

Finally! A computer I can put $10,000 of RAM in!

Would be interesting to know what is Leopard's RAM limit.

I haven't been able to find it yet.

I would guess 16TB (which I think is the virtual memory limit).

Nah, OS X can only address 64K but it's got bank-switching down pat! :D

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Sorry, couldn't resist!
 
Who the F cares if its not tidy inside. I dont go opening the hood on my car worrying about how tidy the wires are there either. I want it to be reliable and perform well and be priced well.

There's nothing "Precise" about that... what a mess...
 
Well, the configuration is up. So far, not a lot of surprises. The T3500 is ~$500 less expensive than the Mac Pro in the same configuration. This could be somewhat explained if the MacPros are using the 5520 chipset (Tylersburg 36D) instead of x58 (Tylersburg 36S), but the none of the 5520 board I've seen support the 3500. Honestly, at this point, I'm pretty sure they jacked the price up a bit so there was no overlap with the iMac.

The T5500/T7500 are a bit harder to gauge. The configuration is not yet set up for the second CPU and only offers Registered ECC DIMMs over 4GB. Apple does not use of the more expensive registered variety but standard unbuffered ECC DIMMs.
 
Who the F cares if its not tidy inside. I dont go opening the hood on my car worrying about how tidy the wires are there either. I want it to be reliable and perform well and be priced well.

1) complexity breeds unreliability
2) sloppiness in one thing may indicate sloppiness in other things
 
1) complexity breeds unreliability
2) sloppiness in one thing may indicate sloppiness in other things

There are some wires that could use cable ties in an empty space. If you look at the motherboard, that area is extremely tidy.
 
One interesting discovery in Dell's configurator is two previously unannounced 2.4ghz and 2.53ghz members of the Bloomfield (Xeon 3500/Core i7) family.
 
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