Department of Homeland Security Has 'No Reason to Doubt' Apple's Denial of Supply Chain Compromise

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    The U.S. Department of Homeland Security today said it has "no reason to doubt" the companies who denied a bombshell Bloomberg Businessweek report this week about Chinese spies using a tiny chip to infiltrate U.S. companies.

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    Homeland Security's full statement:
    Apple, Amazon, and Supermicro have all strongly refuted the report, which alleged that Chinese intelligence planted microchips in Supermicro servers, which Apple and Amazon previously used in their data centers.

    Apple and Bloomberg Businessweek are in a stalemate, with the former strongly refuting the report, and the latter standing by its reporting.

    Apple's denial has been backed by not only the Department of Homeland Security, but also the UK's national cyber security agency, retired Apple general counsel Bruce Sewell, and other unnamed senior executives within Apple.

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    Article Link: Department of Homeland Security Has 'No Reason to Doubt' Apple's Denial of Supply Chain Compromise
     
  2. RedGala macrumors regular

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    Bloomberg Businessweek's reputation is indefinitely tainted in my eyes.
     
  3. Amacfa macrumors 68000

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    Aren’t almost all media outlets ?
     
  4. thisisnotmyname macrumors 68000

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    So was the cry of "fake news" real for once?
     
  5. ctg7w6 macrumors 6502

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    If it really did happen it would make sense to deny it so that the enemy doesn’t know you know...
     
  6. BasicGreatGuy Contributor

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    Either a good game of pysops, or Bloomberg owes Apple a printed apology.
     
  7. kildraik macrumors 6502a

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    Looks like Apple has the big guns on their assessments.
     
  8. projectle macrumors 6502a

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    The problem is that we don’t know if this is inherent bias in the questioning by the journalist who wrote the story. Did they ask explicitly “did you find security vulnerabilities in SuperMicro servers that led your organization to cancel the contract with them prematurely” or was it “tell me what you know” and each of these independent parties presented a very similar story.

    Finally, even if true, it’s in the best interest of everyone involved to protect their brand and if real downplay it significantly or state there were mitigating controls in place that would prevent said vulnerability from being exploitable.
     
  9. cmaier macrumors G5

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    There’s literally no evidence it is true, and tons of evidence that it is false. Among the most compelling arguments against it being true is that it’s so technically infeasible as to border on impossible.
     
  10. jon3543 macrumors 6502

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    Where are the photos of the actual compromised boards and the demonstrations of the exploits?
     
  11. bjoswald macrumors regular

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    Like they’d ever disclose that to the public. :rolleyes:
     
  12. ArtOfWarfare macrumors G3

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    Second link in this article appears to be broken - supposedly it links to the earlier MacRumors story, but it asks me to login.

    Edit: The link is only broken if you try clicking it from the news thread in the forum. From the actual main website, the link works.
     
  13. HiRez macrumors 603

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    If this story is proven to be false, Bloomberg needs to pay a big price for it. In addition to damaging reputations and scaring people, tens of billions of dollars got wiped off peoples 401Ks.
     
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    Fantastic, now the stock can go back up. Thanks, Bloomberg!
     
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    When did that happen? Stock is down about the same percentage as the entire market due to fears about rising bod yields. This story has had zero effect on the stock, hasn’t scared anyone, nor has it damaged anyone’s reputation. Anyone with an IQ higher than a cucumber’s could tell this story is crap by the second paragraph.
     
  17. Gherkin macrumors 6502a

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    If you get all the people in on it to deny it, it sounds pretty convincing...
     
  18. imnotthewalrus macrumors regular

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    It was a valid point/question. If you are going to claim a story of this magnitude, and then defend it when challenged, mere reputation or word of mouth is hardly enough.
     
  19. yadmonkey macrumors 65816

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    For once?
     
  20. alphaod macrumors Core

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    Someone tells me someone was aiming to earn money on a dropping Super Micro, Apple, or Amazon stock.
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    I don't think you realize how many people don't understand how technology works.
     
  21. acorntoy macrumors 65816

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    Ok guys we understand it’s fake. It’s starting to look more suspicious that so many people are releasing denials.
     
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    Trump America is a joke! I can’t even believe I’m reading all this nonsense! Such an obvious manipulation and a pathetic attempt to steer attention away from the whole Russia thing.
     
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    If Bloomberg was lying, then this and the Buzzfeed dossier are the two truly fake stories I've heard of on media outlets that aren't meant to be parodies (though those can confuse people too). From what I've seen, the "fake news" sources are just really misleading or opinion-laden, not outright fake. And the major ones like CNN sometimes fall into that category.
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    I wouldn't be surprised if there were some reason to hide it. I wouldn't call the story fake. But there's nothing anyone can do without evidence, so...
     
  24. WoodpeckerBaby macrumors 6502

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    You know 50% of Americans have double digit IQs. You can't assume everything. Speech do harm, especially from a source of assumed credibility.
     
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    Only if you're a narcissist and think you know more than all professional media.
     

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