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i'mnewhere

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Just wondering if anyone has any *estimates* based on previous releases the amount of depreciation to expect on the 2016 MBPs until the *estimated* release of version 2?

Out of all the new releases which configs would expect the least depreciation?

thanks
 

i'mnewhere

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Sorry but that's d**k comment. Most of us are well aware of cost and implications. It's a choice. You are not any smarter than us, it's a choice.
dude... she meant that some general buyers in the market for resale MBPs are uninformed.
 
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Pootmatoot

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A gen 1 product with as much bad news as this MBP, means its resale value will suffer, pure and simple.

The soldered-on components also crush the future proofing that helps resale.

I'll be interested how well the Space Gray holds up to nicks and bumps too: the Razer is a devil for it.
 

thesaint024

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dude... taking things personally much?

either way, the informed buyers here are definitely a subset of resale buyers in general
Dude! check your facts first. He's been posting these personal jabs constantly. Generalizations like new MBP buyers are uninformed or holdouts are poor are littering this forum. I have no comment on the actual topic but was curious for info, and I read more of this garbage. I don't always call people on it, just felt like it this time. Have a nice day.
 

i'mnewhere

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either way the informed buyers here are a small subset of buyers in general...

In one years time i would think the general market would not know or care about these "bad news"
 
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Pootmatoot

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either way the informed buyers here are a small subset of buyers in general...

In one years time i would think the general market would not know or care about these "bad news"


In one year's time, Kabylake and Nvidia 1050/ti cards will be in budget Windows machines. A $700 budget laptop running rings around a fully spec'd $4000 MBP isn't going to help depreciation.
 

thekev

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Notice how they kept the 2015 model and a non-touch version of the 13"? They are likely to scale back pricing somewhat with the next generation. It happened with the retina macbook pro, which also started off $400 above the previous generation and dropped by $200 a year later. In a year from now, depending on new model pricing, I suspect a used $2400 model at roughly a year old will drop to somewhere around $1800-2000, with $2000 being an assumption that they keep the current price schedule. It could be slightly better or it could be worse. Some people were surprised by how quickly the market value of their 2012 models dropped. Keep in mind that little things like battery service have become quite expensive. It was $200 for battery service with the last generation. I don't know whether this one will be another increase.
 

motime

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Given the crazy price hike, the latest Macbook pro should depreciate more relatively speaking as compared to previous generations. I feel apple will try and address the pricing somewhat in the next iteration.
 
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UnluckyXIII

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either way the informed buyers here are a small subset of buyers in general...

In one years time i would think the general market would not know or care about these "bad news"

In honesty the general market is unlikely to know about them now. Most people who don't directly follow tech are uninformed when it comes to issues like what people have been reporting here (unless it makes headline news - Note 7 for example).

My g/f bought a 12" MB because it was pretty and the vlogger she watches on YouTube has one.... other than that she didn't even know that macOS was different from Windows until using the computer....
 

raqball

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Notice how they kept the 2015 model and a non-touch version of the 13"? They are likely to scale back pricing somewhat with the next generation. It happened with the retina macbook pro, which also started off $400 above the previous generation and dropped by $200 a year later. In a year from now, depending on new model pricing, I suspect a used $2400 model at roughly a year old will drop to somewhere around $1800-2000, with $2000 being an assumption that they keep the current price schedule. It could be slightly better or it could be worse. Some people were surprised by how quickly the market value of their 2012 models dropped. Keep in mind that little things like battery service have become quite expensive. It was $200 for battery service with the last generation. I don't know whether this one will be another increase.

I thought the same would happen with the 12" MacBook but Apple held the price the same when they released the 2016 version.. I don't know f these new Pro's will drop in price but I think they should...
 

CaptRB

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Most buyers don't hang around forums and Mac ANYTHING sells well with near indifference to online nonsense.

People who post here tend to think the whole world is listening but all of the negative reviews combined don't do all that much. I actually read most complaints AFTER my units were shipped!

I wasn't worries because, historically, this type of response is very common with an extremely shallow pool or actual experience behind it.

And I was correct. My 2016 TMBP are flawless, and the best I've used (and I've had a lot of MacBooks and PCs). 99% of what you hear is hysteria. Now that 1% counts because THOSE reports are real, but I'm okay with those odds.



R.
 

thekev

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I thought the same would happen with the 12" MacBook but Apple held the price the same when they released the 2016 version.. I don't know f these new Pro's will drop in price but I think they should...

It's partly that they have more alternatives there. You may remember but Apple was very cautious with the 13" cmbp. They kept the 2012 around for a long time due to its price and the popularity of that model. 15" is typically the most popular size for other brands. It may differ with Apple due to their pricing structure, but I still think they kept the 2015 model around to hold down that price point. As I mentioned, they dropped back from $2200 to $2000 last time, so I don't think they want to make $2400 the new baseline. It may have too great an impact on sales.
 

raqball

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Most buyers don't hang around forums and Mac ANYTHING sells well with near indifference to online nonsense.

People who post here tend to think the whole world is listening but all of the negative reviews combined don't do all that much. I actually read most complaints AFTER my units were shipped!

I wasn't worries because, historically, this type of response is very common with an extremely shallow pool or actual experience behind it.

And I was correct. My 2016 TMBP are flawless, and the best I've used (and I've had a lot of MacBooks and PCs). 99% of what you hear is hysteria. Now that 1% counts because THOSE reports are real, but I'm okay with those odds.



R.

Are you ever going to stop with this rhetoric or will it infect every thread on these forums?
 
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trifid

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Most buyers don't hang around forums and Mac ANYTHING sells well with near indifference to online nonsense.

People who post here tend to think the whole world is listening but all of the negative reviews combined don't do all that much. I actually read most complaints AFTER my units were shipped!

I wasn't worries because, historically, this type of response is very common with an extremely shallow pool or actual experience behind it.

And I was correct. My 2016 TMBP are flawless, and the best I've used (and I've had a lot of MacBooks and PCs). 99% of what you hear is hysteria. Now that 1% counts because THOSE reports are real, but I'm okay with those odds.



R.

Most people have a techie family member or friend or coworker that advices them though. Word travels fast, don't underestimate it.
 

CaptRB

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Most people have a techie family member or friend or coworker that advices them though. Word travels fast, don't underestimate it.



Yeah, but I'm a techie and this new MBP is awesome. No issues with or anyone else. Apple will work out a few bugs on existing machines and a year from now....they'll sell for too much on Craigs and Ebay.

I dislike the MacBook and so do a lot of techies. It still sells for good money.

As you'll soon see, the new MBP will be yet another winner. For so many changes in a model, I'm surprised at how good it is. Beats my 15" and Air easily. I won't sell it next year. My son will get it. But only if the next generation does something I need.


R.
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Are you ever going to stop with this rhetoric or will it infect every thread on these forums?


Please stop reading my posts. And stop policing the forum.

Thanks!


R.
 

raqball

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Whackadoodle....


How many threads can he/she get closed in a day, I wonder?

Yeah... It's one thing to be a fanatical fanboy but when the constant attacking of others happens non-stop it gets old....

Oh well, it's the Internet right.. Where keyboard comandos and whackadoodles can attack and put down others to make themselves feel good.. LOL
 
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Chupa Chupa

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Macs always depreciate similarly. I don't expect the 2016 to be any different - 50% haircut for the entry level model by year 3, which is not bad for a laptop. As for models, the entry levels always depreciate the least. Doesn't matter if it's an iPad, iPhone, or Mac. The % spread between the entry and top of the line model is always significantly less than the original % spread. So if you buy the best be prepared to take a bigger hit. Lesson: buy no more computer than you need. When you need more sell and buy a new computer to match your new needs.
 
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chabig

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A gen 1 product with as much bad news as this MBP, means its resale value will suffer, pure and simple.
I think the so called "bad news" is only to be found on internet mac-oriented message boards, frequented by very few. The public at large doesn't read them.
 
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