Desktop Kaby Lake Processor Launch Details Leaked!

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Will you purchase a brand new Mac Pro with brand new Apple Thunderbolt Display?

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  1. Marx55, Dec 15, 2016
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    Marx55 macrumors 65816

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    Desktop Kaby Lake Processor Launch Details Leaked!
    It’s All Happening At CES 2017!
    We can now confirm that Intel will announce the desktop Kaby Lake processors and Intel 200 Series chipsets on January 4 at CES 2017. The news conference will be held from 4:00 to 4:45 PM at the Mandalay Bay Ballroom E, but the media NDA is set to 1 AM, Pacific Standard Time on January 5, 2017.
    http://www.techarp.com/articles/desktop-kaby-lake-launch-details-leaked

    Hopefully, for brand new Mac Pro with brand new Apple Thunderbolt Display 24-inch.
     
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  3. koyoot macrumors 601

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    Those are consumer CPUs, the ones for iMac, eventually Mac Mini.
     
  4. Marx55 thread starter macrumors 65816

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    There's only one Kaby Lake Xeon chip on that list and it's only 4 cores.

    This announcement is irrelevant to the Mac Pro.
     
  7. Michael Scrip, Dec 15, 2016
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    Why not?

    The current iMac is already available with the Intel Skylake i7-6700K... with a 91W TDP. 4 extra watts isn't that big of a jump.

    So I wouldn't be surprised to see a 95W Kaby Lake quad-core i7 CPU in the next iMac.

    The i5 have much lower TDP... ~60W.
     
  8. dangerfish macrumors 6502

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    Since Apple publicly discontinued the Thunderbolt display this past Summer, why do you think they will launch a new display?
     
  9. Marx55 thread starter macrumors 65816

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    Publicly discontinued the Thunderbolt display? Links?
     
  10. BillyBobBongo macrumors 68020

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    Let us hope! :p
     
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  12. SoyCapitanSoyCapitan macrumors 68040

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    If a new Mac Pro comes out with Sierra it likely be Skylake EP, AMD Vega based GPU, Alpine Ridge controller.
     
  13. Fl0r!an macrumors 6502a

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    The difference in TDP is more about a "K" processor vs. a "non-K" one. This is mostly OC headroom, so the CPU won't run into the power limit when increasing the clock speed.

    My i5-6600K doesn't get nowhere near its spec'ed 91W at stock clocks under full load (e.g. x264 encode). Even with a slight OC and Prime95 "Small FFTs" torturing it stays a few watts below its TDP. I wouldn't expect the i7-7700K to behave differently, it's basically the same thing on a slightly improved process.
     
  14. pat500000 macrumors 604

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    Sorry...but that's E3. NOT E5. xeon.
     
  15. beaker7 macrumors 6502a

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    No.
     
  16. Michael Scrip macrumors 601

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    I was simply replying to the earlier comment: "a 95W CPU is not for the iMac for sure"

    My thinking is... Apple has put a 91W CPU in the iMac... so it wouldn't be weird if they put in a 95W CPU.
     
  17. Marx55 thread starter macrumors 65816

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    Thanks, but that is Jason Snell from sixcolors (and macworld magazine), not Apple. As far as I know, Apple has not officially said that. Yes, I know the source is quite reliable and Apple displays are not listed in Apple Stores, but they are very old. That is why there is a possibility of a new Thunderbolt 3 display from Apple. Hope, I know...
    --- Post Merged, Dec 18, 2016 ---
    It could be yes with this:

    Trio of new AMD GPU references for possible Mac refresh found in latest macOS Sierra beta
    http://appleinsider.com/articles/16...mac-refresh-found-in-latest-macos-sierra-beta

    And hopefully Intel will reveal new microprocessors for Mac Pro at CES 2017 (5th January 2017):

    Kaby Lake
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kaby_Lake

    Products (Formerly Kaby Lake)
    http://ark.intel.com/products/codename/82879/Kaby-Lake#@All
     
  18. pat500000 macrumors 604

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    Well the code may show that but it could be for iMac or whatever. Just like how El Capitan had a code for "nmp" what happened? Nothing.
    nmp will be determined by Tim Cook. I haven't seen any concrete evidence for nmp.
     
  19. beaker7 macrumors 6502a

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    The Mac Pro uses Xeons. Skylake Xeons suitable for it will be out in August at the earliest.
     
  20. Fl0r!an macrumors 6502a

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    In my opinion this isn't much more than a sign that Apple has updated the driver codebase, now including some basic definitions for yet to be released GPUs. You'll find similar references for virtually any AMD GPU, no matter if it was ever supported by Apple or not.

    Things start getting interesting when chunks of real code are found, e.g. device specific functions in the graphics driver (that didn't happen yet).
     
  21. AidenShaw macrumors P6

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    The Haswell Xeons suitable for the MP were out in Q3 2014.

    The Broadwell Xeons suitable for the MP were out in Q1 2016.

    Years ago. Apple was a "no show".
     
  22. beaker7 macrumors 6502a

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    Yep.

    Point is though, the reply was to whether or not non-Xeon Kaby meant that an update was imminent, which it would not.

    Although it would be funny if Apple were to wait until Skylake-EP was imminent and then roll out Haswell. It wouldn't surprise me.
     
  23. rawweb macrumors 6502a

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    You can't honestly believe Apple will produce another standalone display, right?!?!?

    http://www.macrumors.com/2016/06/23/apple-discontinues-thunderbolt-display/

    The story already linked to you plus the story from June (above) shows Apple telling folks to get lost and find a third party display someplace else. In November, Apple announced the 4k and 5k LG displays they collaborated on to help pitch the new MacBook Pro. You don't honestly think a company would sales pitch and sell it's (potential) chief competitor if they had plans to launch their own display, right? Wake up.
     
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    Not only is Apple out of the monitor business, they are also out of the router business.
     
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    And almost out of the workstation business.
     

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