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Can you imagine how quickly this sucker would render a decently complex animation!! Right now I have a dual core processor... this would blow my current system out of water! Can't wait!
 
And what is the Power7 up to now, 5 Ghz? Once again Apple must be rueing the day they ever switched to these sluggish Intel processors.
 
Unless you can't use a glass/glossy screen the the iMac has, like me.

The glass can be removed.

Your tower was a much better value than the current Mac Pros.

And they are still fetching a good price on the used market.

That's a bit much, in my opinion.

Are these i7's dual QPI? If not then these aren't the same chips that the DP Mac Pro uses.

I wouldn't be surprised if they were from the same masks, just don't connect the pins for the second QPI when packaging the chip.
 
Isn't one of the big selling points of the Mac Pro's that they use a server CPU? Isn't the main defense of their outrageous price tag, that they use server CPU's?

And so now Apple is going to put a desktop CPU into them, and lower the price? Am I reading this correctly?
 
Yeah, totally. Someone messed up their research it seems. Xeon CPUs are the only chips that Intel allows to be used in multi-socket machines.


i remember the days when you could do SMP with Celerons and very quickly you had motherboards come out for the home builders that let you run 2 celeron CPU's and they were cheap too. then Intel "fixed it"
 
Dodeca-core would be insane...only there are so many apps that don't take advantage of multi-core stuff, that's the only bummer.

I'm just happy with my new 27" iMac. Runs everything like a dream in Windows 7 and no hardware problems. Fingers crossed.
 
Seriously, performance is used too sloppy nowadays..

A $1000 PC tower won't be up and running after three years of 24/7 work with the same amount of I/Os as a Xeon server.. Performance is not only the "immediate performance", but also how much you can do with a computer before it dies..

Why not? I have home built machines running 5 years after 24/7 work. The parts inside a MP are no different than any system builder can buy right now.
 
Dodeca-core would be insane...only there are so many apps that don't take advantage of multi-core stuff, that's the only bummer.

I'm just happy with my new 27" iMac. Runs everything like a dream in Windows 7 and no hardware problems. Fingers crossed.

Surely that is a typo...
 
And what is the Power7 up to now, 5 Ghz? Once again Apple must be rueing the day they ever switched to these sluggish Intel processors.

With the kind of numbers Apple has been putting up since '06, I doubt it. The move to Intel was genius, and also necessary.
 
I don't want to pay $2500 for a Mac tower that has the performance of a $1000 PC tower - which is what we have today...

It can't get any worse, can it? ;)

It's funny how HP, Dell, and Lenovo do the same thing but no one complains about them. Just Apple.

Or maybe you've never seen a Dell, HP, or Lenovo workstation before?
 
what exactly is the point of all these cores on a desktop machine with a crappy graphics card that won't be used for heavy video work...
so true. we had to get the Quadro FX 4800 after to get one Mac up to par for After Effects/maya work.
 
There's plenty of Xeon love next year in 32nm.
 

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It's funny how HP, Dell, and Lenovo do the same thing but no one complains about them. Just Apple.

Or maybe you've never seen a Dell, HP, or Lenovo workstation before?

A $1000 workstation from Dell, HP or Lenovo isn't going to be the same as a $2500 workstation from anyone, not even Apple. You're just not going to get the same collection of parts or the same performance. Which isn't to say that they would be bad parts or bad reliability, just not as good. From HP, you're going to get a pretty flimsy case (in my experience, a consumer tower case with a different color scheme) and a Core 2, not a Xeon. Me personally, I prefer HP's Z800 series. Super solid case, easily expandable to second CPU and insane RAM. But that's not cheap.
 
It's funny how HP, Dell, and Lenovo do the same thing but no one complains about them. Just Apple.

Or maybe you've never seen a Dell, HP, or Lenovo workstation before?

real dell workstations have the same Xeon CPU's except you can buy them with a decent workstation level graphics card built to order. the dell workstations will even take a lot more memory than a mac pro
 
Isn't one of the big selling points of the Mac Pro's that they use a server CPU? Isn't the main defense of their outrageous price tag, that they use server CPU's?
The single socket Xeons are priced identically to their Core i7 processor counterparts. The single socket W35xx Mac Pros are horrifically overpriced for a base $284 processor.

The Core i5 750 gets about 90% of the performance of the Core i7 920 (Xeon W3520). The only crippling factor about the iMac is the pathetic external I/O options.
 
It's funny how HP, Dell, and Lenovo do the same thing but no one complains about them. Just Apple.

Or maybe you've never seen a Dell, HP, or Lenovo workstation before?

The difference in those expensive Windows workstations is you get a decent graphics card.
 
There have already been benchmarks with this chip out for a while now on the good pc hardware forums such as xtremesystems.org. This is also *not* the chip that will be going into the Mac Pro. Apple will use the far more expensive dual socket Xeon version for the 12 core model and the cheap as chips (only a few $ more than this chip) Xeon for the 6 core model - they'll charge as if it costs $1000 more though.
 
I learned long ago that you should never buy the absolute top end parts because the cost/performance ratio is so poor. I also learned that the best way to buy a workstation is not to spend $3k today, but to buy a $1k machine each year. Technology moves at such a fast pace that unless you absolutely need that last 10% of performance out of a $3k machine you're much better off buying a $1k machine every year.
 
Tempting

My 2006 quad core 2.66 MP with 5 Gig of Ram has been running fine for me. I've not noticed slowdown in any of my workflows and it's H.264 encoding has been acceptable. I recently put a Radeon 4870 in it (1 gig) and have been playing Bioshock at 2560x1600 with never a dip below 30 FPS....HOWEVER....

My wife is using a G4 iMac and I put her on notice that towards the end of next year I'll be looking at a New Mac Pro.....so she can have the 4 core machine.

I'm not doing it for me...it's for her, after all....:D
 
My 2006 quad core 2.66 MP with 5 Gig of Ram has been running fine for me. I've not noticed slowdown in any of my workflows and it's H.264 encoding has been acceptable. I recently put a Radeon 4870 in it (1 gig) and have been playing Bioshock at 2560x1600 with never a dip below 30 FPS....HOWEVER....

My wife is using a G4 iMac and I put her on notice that towards the end of next year I'll be looking at a New Mac Pro.....so she can have the 4 core machine.

I'm not doing it for me...it's for her, after all....:D

I like your strategy. ;)
 
and more than 4 memory slots and can support more than 16gb (the current entry Mac Pro only supported 8gb when first released).
BIOS updates as well. I had some Optiplex AMD towers that I later upgraded to Phenom parts from Athlon 64 X2. They never originally shipped with them though. ;)
 
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