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Expecting people to look in the box for printed instructions is just lazy. The instructions should leap out of the box and latch on to the owners face so they can use them.

Is it really? And is not lazy from peoples part to not look in the shiny box for what they paid for (including prints and instructions) but instead having way of slaping the instruction into their brain without them having to move a finger? Gezz!! Humans of 21 century!! What have we become!!
 
Let's hope it doesn't fall flat with iOS users

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"I'm at a proverbial crossroad with my iPhone. I feel slightly stuck in the ecosystem as I have a macbook pro and iPad (which I love them both), but I don't love my iPhone. I'm honestly considering everything from the Blackberry Q10 (yes, thats right) to a Galaxy Note 2/3 at this point."[/QUOTE]

I pretty much had the same feeling, then I did the jailbreak = now I am enjoying my iphone5 more than ever, and it is super customizable :D
 
Flat or not doesn't matter

It is the features and robustness of the apps that matter. Really if you think about it the OS means little, it is the apps that people actually use. Gupive me apps with feature parity ipon Mac OS. Even something like notes is a bit wanting on iOS compared to the Mac OS version. Considering that the Mac O a version is far newer that is a huge priblem.

In a nut shell the OS at this point is seldom seen by the user. This should lead to fewer points of contention!
 
Windows 8 style does look pleasing but I think Apple will do it more elegantly instead of a rainbow and massive puzzle pieces for kids.

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It is the features and robustness of the apps that matter. Really if you think about it the OS means little, it is the apps that people actually use. Gupive me apps with feature parity ipon Mac OS. Even something like notes is a bit wanting on iOS compared to the Mac OS version. Considering that the Mac O a version is far newer that is a huge priblem.

In a nut shell the OS at this point is seldom seen by the user. This should lead to fewer points of contention!

Apple is all about design, they do what they love so you have to live with it :p It is not up to Apple to make 99% of the apps anyway :) they have to do something with their time.
 
I hope he also makes sure about the usability of the iOS in general. What annoys me most as a user is

- having an obsolete address book app which does nothing more than the address book in the phone app (just make it clickable while talking if you need to check)
- no more having the oldschool and genius iPod app which had all my media (music, video AND podcasts) in one place
- having to put baseline apps like Stocks in a folder I named "obsolete", let alone being forced to have the annoying Newsstand
- having two apps for shooting and viewing/editing photos (and videos) while you can also view photos in the camera app but not shoot photos in the Photo app

I really hope he doesn't improve just the visuals.
 
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Making icons flatter or tabs different is only a visual change. iOS will need a lot more than that to be more advanced.
 
I don't think it will happen. I love iOS interface and UI is simple and clean.

We will see, but i would miss skeumorphism if true, i love Game Center looks, iBooks, Notes...

Anyway true or not, remember that these are rumors, it means 90%of times are fake (not incorrect, just fake).

Seems to me where there's smoke there's fire. John Gruber, Rene Ritchie and now 9to5Mac have all reported this. And we haven't heard anyone deny it. I wouldn't be surprised if Apple is leaking some of this on purpose.
 
Kind of bad for Apple imo. It means they're taking design cues from Microsoft the worst design team in the industry. And Microsoft should sue the crap outta them.
 
I thought their new weather app was very well thought out and useable.

Yep. Replaced the weather channel app I was using. Though the weather channel app lost me when they replaced contextual photo background with advertising. :rolleyes:

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Kind of bad for Apple imo. It means they're taking design cues from Microsoft the worst design team in the industry. And Microsoft should sue the crap outta them.

Microsoft didn't invent "flat" design style.
 
The new Yahoo weather app is probably what Apple will do with it's weather app. Also people won't be able to say Apple copied android since it incorporated Yahoo weather into the system.

That's a clue right there.

;)

What apple needs to do with the weather app, is remove the icon from the home screen, the notification bar weather is perfect, and simply use the system's defined location or auto-generated location to get the weather data, and for the celsius/fahrenheit thing, just add a little pane in Settings.
 
That would be a large step back. From visually good looking icons to flat 1 color icons. I don't call this progress.
 
It's just a tagline really. Doesn't mean Apple is implying that 100% of the time it works and anyone who tells you it doesn't is lying.

Of course it doesn't "just work" for everyone just like Snickers doesn't "satisfy" everyone and Folgers may not be the best part of waking up for some, and some people may not say "I'm lovin' it" after eating McDonald's.

You've stated the obvious. It's not even a tag line. It's marketing "propaganda" My point was that there are enough people here who believe that messaging that they regurgitate it (IE - the phone just works" etc.) All technology has a learning curve.

When some here say that iOS is intuitive and that anyone can pick up a device and just use it is perhaps forgetting the fact that they've (most likely) have used either another iPhone before and/or another smart phone where you can figure things out relatively quickly (basic functions). Just like if you move from Aperture to Lightroom. Or FCP to Premier. Core functionality is the same. But there's a learning curve once you dip below the surface.
 
Seriously, what is this proliferation of models and form factors you speak of?

For every new iPad, there are actually at least 9 different models released. Three different memory sizes, and two branches, one Verizon and one AT&T. That excludes international versions too, so there could be up to 15 different SKU's for a new model. And a new iPhone creates how many new SKU's here and internationally? 9? 12? 15? THAT is a whole lot of inventory being pushed around.

And that ignores the holdovers from the previous generations that are still in the channel. The local Target still has 7 original iPads in the display case at the original price! The local Best Try has scads of iPad 3's and even some 2's left. New, still in the shrink wrap. And Ford knows how much of this previous inventory Apple has squirreled away somewhere. That sucks from a logistics sense. There are to many models of each device. Apple would do well to come up with an iPad and iPhone that supports all carriers, and probably just kill off the wi-fi only iPads completely.

Back 'in the day', pre-Jobs, Apple had so many models of essentially the same machine. Apple had what seemed like hundreds of models of Performa's and other dreck. Some that were nearly the same system just in a different box, some the exact same, only with a different processor, or more memory, or a bigger drive, or different software included: Performa marketing failure.
 
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Boring!

I hope Apple makes the iPhone software/hardware even better. It's getting really, really boring and I almost switched to an HTC One (really, really, really nice beautiful hardware) - but I sent it back because I couldn't stand Androids buggy software.
 
Seems to me where there's smoke there's fire. John Gruber, Rene Ritchie and now 9to5Mac have all reported this. And we haven't heard anyone deny it. I wouldn't be surprised if Apple is leaking some of this on purpose.

Yep but could also be that people are using the word "flat design" instead of clean design like the current iTunes. Not flat was there is shadow, textures, etc but clean.

Which is the best design because you need master all disciplines to achieve it (flat + skeuomorphism)

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I hope Apple makes the iPhone software/hardware even better. It's getting really, really boring and I almost switched to an HTC One (really, really, really nice beautiful hardware) - but I sent it back because I couldn't stand Androids buggy software.

Yeah, and once they change something, you will be happy and all the others that don't want to change their habbits will start whining...
 
Integration and User Experience is Key

I love new features as much as the next person, and I somewhat agree with the people on here who feel that the iPhone is getting stale. However, for me integration and user-experience is key. I don't want something that is overly complicated and I don't want something with a bunch of Wizz-Bang features that doesn't connect with anything else.

Right now with my iPhone I can control my thermostat, home theatre amp, AppleTV, IP cameras, outside flood lights. Soon I'll be controlling the interior lights wth my iPhone...it's a beautiful thing. Android is gaining support from 3rd party vendors but still doesn't have as deep of a hardware/software ecosystem as apple (think iTunes, AppleTV, iMac, iPad, iPhone all working together). If Apple comes out with more hardware (iTV or iWatch) and has great integration with existing devices it will only confirm the reason why I've stuck with Apple this long.
 
This is probably why Apple hasn’t changed the look of iOS much because they knew people would complain no matter how they changed it. We haven’t even see a screen shot and people are already saying iOS 7 is going to be ugly and boring and look like windows. You complain when they don't change it and then you complain when they do. I'm happy for a new look and doubt Apple will go backwards but there is no way to know until WWDC. See the new iOS and then complain about it.
 
Yep but could also be that people are using the word "flat design" instead of clean design like the current iTunes. Not flat was there is shadow, textures, etc but clean.

Which is the best design because you need master all disciplines to achieve it (flat + skeuomorphism)
i think there's too much emphasis on words like flat and skeuomorphic or glossy and matte. I think it's about good design and when you come across something well designed most people will probably like it. Case in point, look at the App Store ratings for the new Yahoo weather app.
 
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