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pray not. yahoo design is obsolete way before they are launched and is crappy.
Was something wrong with the iPhone 4 when the 4S came out? Was something wrong with iOS5 when iOS 6 came out? Etc...
Things evolve and change.
It's obvious, judging by posts on this thread, that a lot of y'all have no idea what "flat" means. Then again until we actually see the OS none of us technically know what "flat" means.
This was a good read: http://sachagreif.com/flat-pixels/
Even though I was hesitant to put the link here as I know so many people are going to say "THEY'RE GOING TOWARDS WINDOWS 8 NO!!!", but how about you read the entire article and don't just skim it or look at the pictures.
If anything I wouldn't mind if it took a thing or two away from, what seems like, Google's new design choice in their apps as of late. It takes both styles and merges them together very well in my opinion.
I've also noticed quite a few of my apps have gotten an update with a total redesign. Just about all of them went with with a style similar to what Google is doing and blending both designs together. they look very good and work very well in my opinion.
This was a good read: http://sachagreif.com/flat-pixels/
Even though I was hesitant to put the link here as I know so many people are going to say "THEY'RE GOING TOWARDS WINDOWS 8 NO!!!", but how about you read the entire article and don't just skim it or look at the pictures.
If anything I wouldn't mind if it took a thing or two away from, what seems like, Google's new design choice in their apps as of late. It takes both styles and merges them together very well in my opinion.
I've also noticed quite a few of my apps have gotten an update with a total redesign. Just about all of them went with with a style similar to what Google is doing and blending both designs together. they look very good and work very well in my opinion.
Actually- the only thing I need is a file browser and a breakout cable so I can connect an external harddrive and a video camcorder to the ipad in order to copy files from the camera to the harddrive.....
I'm a fan of skeuomorphism when it doesn't get in the way. I'm kind of worried about what's going happen with iOS 7. While modern versions of OS X are more functional, they are hideous. I miss brushed metal, the blue apple, the rounded corners on the top bar, pinstriping, the blue pill in the upper right and shiny blue scroll bar.
They didn't get in the way and were a nice break from the cold and dead interfaces of the time.
And multiple panels? Swipe from this side, or this side, or this corner, or...screw that! Just fix notification center and let people install widgets into it. DONE.
They didn't get in the way and were a nice break from the cold and dead interfaces of the time.
And multiple panels? Swipe from this side, or this side, or this corner, or...screw that! Just fix notification center and let people install widgets into it. DONE.
How about optimization? Any of that going in iOS 7?? Fewer bitmaps using less RAM? Less GPU waste on crap like animated anisotropic controls?
Also, adding new swipe panels is fine as long as it's not like the apps that slide around when you touch any portion of them. Those apps become harder to use because they're constantly sliding around where you don't want them to, especially when selecting and editing text.
Also, adding new swipe panels is fine as long as it's not like the apps that slide around when you touch any portion of them. Those apps become harder to use because they're constantly sliding around where you don't want them to, especially when selecting and editing text.
Couldn't agree more. I really hope Apple's near-future plans for iOS include adding some "advanced user" features along those lines. I fully understand the benefits for the majority of users out there who don't want to be bothered and simply want to plug in to iTunes and let things sync, but for some people (me included) a manual mode of managing files/music/photos/apps without ever having to launch iTunes would be great.
They should be adding new features to the iOS instead of "only" change its appearance.
For example, where's the bi-window capability ("snap view") of Windows RT? It's eminently usable on the Surface RT (and all other RT's). There isn't a single true windowing solution for iOS iPads - particularly now that the only JB tool, the $10, Quasar is incompatible with iOS 6+.
Or, I could ask the same wrt Android. It has a lot of advanced features incl. windowing.
For example, where's the bi-window capability ("snap view") of Windows RT? It's eminently usable on the Surface RT (and all other RT's). There isn't a single true windowing solution for iOS iPads - particularly now that the only JB tool, the $10, Quasar is incompatible with iOS 6+.
Or, I could ask the same wrt Android. It has a lot of advanced features incl. windowing.
Doubt it. I don't think that was Scott's decision but Jobs'. Implementing a file system is easy, they just don't want it.
If Ive is concentrating on the UI so much I expect that's because everyone is running out of new ideas for phones/tablets.
I do wish more effort would be put into "better" rather than just "flatter" though - my PC is dying and I was going to buy an iMac, checked out the latest one and all the effort seems to have gone into pointlessly making it thinner when it could have been made to perform better. The stand is thicker than the screen and is the limiting factor on depth so it didn't need to go thinner and lose the optical drive, cram a bunch of laptop running gear into a small space etc.
Just stop obsessing with thinness/flatness and make the battery bigger, give edges that make phones easier to hold and pick up, don't use materials which chip so easily. It's not all about how pretty it looks in photos.
(I understand flatness and thinness aren't necessarily the same thing but Ive seems obsessed with both).
I do wish more effort would be put into "better" rather than just "flatter" though - my PC is dying and I was going to buy an iMac, checked out the latest one and all the effort seems to have gone into pointlessly making it thinner when it could have been made to perform better. The stand is thicker than the screen and is the limiting factor on depth so it didn't need to go thinner and lose the optical drive, cram a bunch of laptop running gear into a small space etc.
Just stop obsessing with thinness/flatness and make the battery bigger, give edges that make phones easier to hold and pick up, don't use materials which chip so easily. It's not all about how pretty it looks in photos.
(I understand flatness and thinness aren't necessarily the same thing but Ive seems obsessed with both).
everything. It's ugly and it's boring.
Don't get me wrong on this, it was great/awesome back in 2007 but after 5 years, it became just sad.
We could make use of a restricted file system like creating aliases (symlinks) to files in other apps' Documents (or any other) directory. It'd tremendously help accessing the same, say, large video file from several apps without having to transfer the same file from iTunes.
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Particularly the iPad version could use, among other things, true windowing. A LOT of iPad users need it - see the popularity of the Quasar thread here at MR - https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/1536290/
Windows RT has implemented it brilliantly and is eminently usable on even a "restricted" tablet. It's REALLY sad Apple doesn't seem to be watning to add something similar to iOS.
The same stands for symlinking I've just mentioned. It'd be of TREMENDOUS help and wouldn't add security risks when implemented, say, in the current (very restricted and dumb) mutual file transfer way. It could work in exactly the same way, except that you'd be just creating symlinks instead of copying the entire file to the target app.
At the moment, they are still in the "shipped to retailers" phase. We'll have to wait three months to see if the retailers can actually move these tablets on to customers. And I'd add we have to wait to see if they can move them at full price; in the past some tablets ended up being sold at ridiculously low prices ($99 for tablets that were intended to sell at $499), in that case market share is quite meaningless, since the seller will stop selling to avoid huge losses.
Currently, the Windows RT hardwae is nothing to write home about when compared to Retina iOS or Android tablets.
However, the OS itself is an entirely different beast. In many respects (native multitasking / windowing support, USB driver support, Web browser standards compliance etc.), it's FAR superior to iOS. This means that, as soon as decent RT hardware arrives (faster CPU, Retina screen, probably Wacom support), geeks will also start using the OS.
I think the new Yahoo Weather App is a fantastic example of a design which is both flat, and looks great.
Designing something that is actually very simple, but also looks good is a difficult to pull off.
Hopefully Ive and the team will be up to that.
If the boring grey-metal-brick-design that the Macbooks show off for years now is any indication, i fear the worst for iOS 7.
Please not!
Let's hope the 80's won't sue Apple for stealing their design then...
I feel exactly the same!
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To each his own - but if going iOS 7 would force me into such a design i'll refuse to upgrade!