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I think that spec is wrong. Perhaps the 7000 series AMD in the Mac Pro.

Nope, Apple lived up to its mediocrity and released a new mac pro while they continued to have their head up their a$$ and gave everyone the same outdated ATI 5770.

I feel terrible for creative professionals, its clear as mud that apple doesnt give a damn about them.
 
Hold on a Minute . . .

Find this VERY odd. Go to the Apple website. Click the Mac link Click the MacPro icon. Click "BUY NOW". You are taken to a store page where all specs are the same as the olf model - BUT the MacPro in the top menu is a new image that looks more cube-ish, and there is a "NEW" designation by this image.

It is too small an image to tell much, BUT (again) - when you right-click to "save as" the image name is: macpro2012-shelf-macstep1-macpro.png

Same for an image of the innards further down. Name of that image is: macpro2012-step1-overview-interior.png

Finally, at the bottom, new images show the MacPro box, and it is indeed a more square carton.

Methinks Store Updates are still in progress here.

Hope still burns...
 
Just because there are newer/better graphic cards out today does not make the 5770 garbage. I'm a 30+ year graphics professional using the 5770 daily in my Mac Pro. It's a very capable card for professional graphics.

Maybe not so cutting edge for gamers but who's buying a MP for Gaming ?

My workstation has 4 Quadros in it, and I don't even do graphic work. The 5770 is three years old, it has NO place in a 2500+ dollar workstation.

No Ram, No SATA III, No TB? No USB 3.0?

What a rip, I hoping for a new Mac Pro, I would have bought one, now that its out of the bag. **** Apple. **** their ****** GPU options. I'm done.
 
This could be a turning point for Apple which has been sailing "insanely high" on mobile computing. For the company who seemed to be so concerned about changing the world (Tim Cook speech today), they are allowing the biodiversity of their product ecosystem to wither here. The Mac Pro can't sell itself. Apple management is blinded by the new nimble quick-reaction paradigm of management. It will be impossible to fix the damage when users vote no on dated Mac Pro specs, and self-fulfilling prophecy when Cook then quickly pulls the plug in a snap maneuver. Fast forward a year when the market figures out that docked notebooks are not for heavy thermal grinding tasks and wants new towers. Too late. :apple:


And call me crazy but this is sort of why I sold my AAPL stock when I made a nice profit. I see a "bubble" in sight and I'm ok with that. As of late, it has become way to trendy for me and I don't want to be on the bubble when it pops. What Apple has done is amazing but they have ignored there pro market a touch.

It seems that they are more so concerned with all the iDevices because of the huge market share they have and the Mac has been kicked to the corner. Believe me, as a business owner myself, I would focus on the profitable aspects as well but the Mac is what defined this company.

Ok, rambling...All I'm saying is, I wish they would show the mac a little more love. :D
 
Find this VERY odd. Go to the Apple website. Click the Mac link Click the MacPro icon. Click "BUY NOW". You are taken to a store page where all specs are the same as the olf model - BUT the MacPro in the top menu is a new image that looks more cube-ish, and there is a "NEW" designation by this image.

It is too small an image to tell much, BUT (again) - when you right-click to "save as" the image name is: macpro2012-shelf-macstep1-macpro.png

Same for an image of the innards further down. Name of that image is: macpro2012-step1-overview-interior.png

Finally, at the bottom, new images show the MacPro box, and it is indeed a more square carton.

Methinks Store Updates are still in progress here.

Hope still burns...

Are you serious? You didn't realize that the Mac Pro looks different when looking at it from the side than from head-on?
 
And call me crazy but this is sort of why I sold my AAPL stock when I made a nice profit. I see a "bubble" in sight and I'm ok with that. As of late, it has become way to trendy for me and I don't want to be on the bubble when it pops. What Apple has done is amazing but they have ignored there pro market a touch.

It seems that they are more so concerned with all the iDevices because of the huge market share they have and the Mac has been kicked to the corner. Believe me, as a business owner myself, I would focus on the profitable aspects as well but the Mac is what defined this company.

Ok, rambling...All I'm saying is, I wish they would show the mac a little more love. :D

I agree. We'll have to see if they get one more everybody-has-to-have-this-expensive-but-cool-TV consumer rush. But after that, I just don't see any new amazing product niches for Apple to fill and the stock climb has to level off. Of course "level-off" in a market with such insane expectations would be the equivalent of a "burst bubble". And if they allow Mac Pro to crumble there won't be any back-to-basics stuff to rely on. Cook described the new Retina MacBook Pro as Apple's new "Flagship". That also makes me nervous. Guess I'll shop around a little for some 2009 Mac Pro spare parts. :apple:
 
Well, the 12-core base model is $3800, rather than $5000 like the 2010 model. That's something, I guess. And the base 4-core model comes with 6GB instead of 3GB (also 12GB instead of 6GB for the 12-core). Still not much of an update....

--Eric
 
I agree. We'll have to see if they get one more everybody-has-to-have-this-expensive-but-cool-TV consumer rush. But after that, I just don't see any new amazing product niches for Apple to fill and the stock climb has to level off. Of course "level-off" in a market with such insane expectations would be the equivalent of a "burst bubble". And if they allow Mac Pro to crumble there won't be any back-to-basics stuff to rely on. Cook described the new Retina MacBook Pro as Apple's new "Flagship". That also makes me nervous. Guess I'll shop around a little for some 2009 Mac Pro spare parts. :apple:

Yeah, the breaking point for me was when I was asked to join someone at a coffee shop so we could be "seen" using our Macs. I think I threw up in my mouth when that came out of there mouth. I simply smiled and thought to myself, " _____." This is the stereotypical apple consumer now, at least in my eyes. People not knowing who they are and following the trend trying to figure it out.
 
Well, the 12-core base model is $3800, rather than $5000 like the 2010 model. That's something, I guess. And the base 4-core model comes with 6GB instead of 3GB (also 12GB instead of 6GB for the 12-core). Still not much of an update....

--Eric


The 12-core 2.66GHz model in 2010 cost $5,000. It still does. The 2.4Ghz 6-core processors in the $3,800 model were introduced in February 2011 and unsurprisingly have a price of $150 more each than those used in the $3,500 $8-core.
 
I was wrong. 9to5 were right. The reason for the odd leaked specs was that they ended up using the same previous Westmere CPUs. Incredible.
 
Mac Pro update a train wreck

The Mac Pro update is aimed at unloading unsold boxes. These are the same boxes that have been kicking around since 2010.

At $2500 they just have the old 2.8 removed and a 3.2 inserted. Don't know if I would want someone opening up an old box like that.

After all Steve wanted 3.0 Ghz when he switched to Intel.
 
The Mac Pro update is aimed at unloading unsold boxes. These are the same boxes that have been kicking around since 2010.

At $2500 they just have the old 2.8 removed and a 3.2 inserted. Don't know if I would want someone opening up an old box like that.

After all Steve wanted 3.0 Ghz when he switched to Intel.

They don't manufacture like that. Apple turn all their inventory over in 5 days. They may have other parts left from production waiting as part of their Just-In-Time manufacturer process - Apple specific parts like the enclosure, boards, graphics cards, but they won't be replacing processors and memory in existing units.

Intel just likely don't make the processors that were being used so no longer can offer supply; Apple are using parts that replaced them over a year ago.
 
Please check what you're regurgitating from 9to5 for heaven's sake!! :mad:

Radeon 5770? A 3 year old card? Look, Apple does not always use the latest and greatest, but to reuse the same card that's been the entry-level in the Mac Pro since 2010 would be a new low.

3.2GHz quad-core processor? There is no such processor in the Sandy Bridge Xeon line-up. There is a 3.2 Quad core Nehalem, but you can buy it right now in the 2010 Mac Pro.

It's more likely to be a 3.6 GHz Quad (E5-1620) or the 3.2 Hex (E5-1650)

2.4GHz 12-core ? There is no such thing in the model line-up that one would expect Apple to use

In the Sandy Bridge Xeon line-up you can get a 2.4 8 core (E5-2665) , which is ridiculously expensive, thus it would be a 16 core model (2x8) or you can get a 2.3 6 core. The 2.3 6 core (E5-2630) is less than half the price of the 2.4 8 core.

The 2.4 8 core costs about $1440. The 2.3 6 core costs about $612. Thus you won't see the 8 core in the entry-level dual CPU configuration. It's more likely to be a 2.3 12 core using the E5-2630 x 2.

At least try to get the basic facts right. Seriously, you guys.

Edit: I acknowledge that there is an E3 3.2 Quad Core, which was released in April 2011 and there is even an Ivy Bridge E3 3.2 Quad Core released recently, but it wouldn't make sense for Apple to suddenly start using the E3 series. The performance benefit from the 2010 models would not be worth it.

There is a 2.4 GHz 6 core, but it's the E5-4610, which is designed for 4 CPU systems and costs about $1219.

Those processor choices do not make sense based on previous trends.

Edit2: There is another thing that I've completely forgotten about...

The E5 - 24## series and specifically the E5-2440, which is 6 core 2.4 and costs about $832 each and supports dual CPU configurations. The 24## series runs lower TDP than the 26## and is meant to be the more light weight version. But this is designed for servers, rather than workstations, as per Umbongo.

Update:

Lols
 

What are you lolling about ? He was right, he just didn't anticipate Apple wouldn't update the Mac Pro, slap a "new" tag on the store and call the 2010 model the 2012 model.

How is that even a laughing matter ? I'd frankly be appalled. Apple shouldn't have done that "update" if that was the update they were doing.
 
What are you lolling about ? He was right, he just didn't anticipate Apple wouldn't update the Mac Pro, slap a "new" tag on the store and call the 2010 model the 2012 model.

How is that even a laughing matter ? I'd frankly be appalled. Apple shouldn't have done that "update" if that was the update they were doing.

Yup, no one expected this. As someone else said, Apple managed to dissapoint those who said it was dead and those who said it wasn't.
 
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