And please make them shiny pink! That would be as useful as having retina
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Is anybody else disappointed with the mac book and mac book pro's specs? I hope they do a better job on the iMacs
Is anybody else disappointed with the mac book and mac book pro's specs? I hope they do a better job on the iMacs
Different situation. The displays on Mac notebooks are already very crisp (13" mbp a little less so but still). And that retina on the iPad 3 required a battery that was amost twice as big, and it still gets worse battery life than the iPad 2. Not a worthwhile trade off on a laptop that already has a crisp looking screen. Give me battery life.
I didnt talk about the likelihood, i just replied to everyone saying that no CPU:s with those specs existed. Intel have several CPU:s with those specs, so i have no idea why some people are saying that no CPU:s with those specs exists at all.
I don't believe those 'rumoured' specs for 1 second. The ONLY way they can truly be real about the MB Pro is that the new 15" model will NOT be a Pro but will be an addition to the Air lineup, and I would also state it is not half as powerful as the MB Pro either.
I think it's best people stop reporting now as the rumoured facts are obviously plain wrong or seriously lacking. We will know for definite in a few hours
I think it's best people stop reporting now as the rumoured facts are obviously plain wrong or seriously lacking. We will know for definite in a few hours
Fair enough. I should have been more explicit in my post, but I was trying to type very quickly to be on the first page.
I have edited my original post and corrected it.
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My favourite is when they quote each other and then use whoever quoted their rumour to show that somebody has "backed-up" their original rumour.
This happened a couple of weeks ago and I just had to sketch it out
Yeah this always seems to happen, as with all Apple announcements there will be a large subset of people upset because of unrealistic expectations produced by these rumours.
just realised my names on the graph! oops partly to blame
Why is iMac being neglected!?
How do you know it will be? These rumours are possibly so inaccurate now I wouldn't trust them at all until Tim Cook states they are fact.
My take on the Mac Pro specs: Somewhere in Apple, the suspected leak who was fed some nonsense specs (just to see if they got out), is being carried to the door.
"Double-down on secrecy", remember. Not that tracking all the rumours isn't fun, of course...
That would make a lot of sense! It would certainly explain these specs!
Seriously: What big advantages are there for the EVERYDAY PRO USER in a Mac Pro?
Think about it.
I used Apple Towers (first in DTP) since there were available, even before with the Mac II which had like 8 expansion slots if i recall correctly.
1) Better Processing Power? Yes. But at the price that you don't upgrade that fast, and that the initial purchase Price for more power is pretty high. Maybe it's better to upgrade a cheaper machine more often, like a Top-of-the-Line iMac. I Don't like the idea of changing the display with it, but from a financial perspective it could make sense overall.
2) More Space for HDDs? Yes, but not really relevant. Take a external RAID, if you need performance, a thunderbolt RAID.
3) A lot of RAM? Yes, but there are not many cases where more than 8 Gigabyte is needed. At least the market is so small that Apple could seriously think of exiting, like they did with a lot of Products. So don't keep your hopes up on this one.
4) More GPU Power? This one keeps me thinking a lot. The GPU offerings for the Mac Pro have never been that great, so i think it's the same as in 1). And i just don't want to hack a PC GPU.
5) Specialized Hardware Cards: If you need a highly specialized Card, then you need a Mac Pro. At least for now.
Lets wait and see if there will be an external Solution over Thunderbolt (like a Housing for External Cards). This could be the death blow for a Mac Pro, because the Market for it will be very small.
I'm on your side, Pros. I'm one of you. But think about all these options and then ask yourself: If you would be Apple, would you keep the Mac Pro in the lineup?
I don't know. Just asking a question.
And Meanwhile, the Macintosh II i worked on (who cost over 20.000 Deutsche Mark back in the 80s when it was bought) has never been upgraded besides the HDD.
Think about it.
I used Apple Towers (first in DTP) since there were available, even before with the Mac II which had like 8 expansion slots if i recall correctly.
1) Better Processing Power? Yes. But at the price that you don't upgrade that fast, and that the initial purchase Price for more power is pretty high. Maybe it's better to upgrade a cheaper machine more often, like a Top-of-the-Line iMac. I Don't like the idea of changing the display with it, but from a financial perspective it could make sense overall.
2) More Space for HDDs? Yes, but not really relevant. Take a external RAID, if you need performance, a thunderbolt RAID.
3) A lot of RAM? Yes, but there are not many cases where more than 8 Gigabyte is needed. At least the market is so small that Apple could seriously think of exiting, like they did with a lot of Products. So don't keep your hopes up on this one.
4) More GPU Power? This one keeps me thinking a lot. The GPU offerings for the Mac Pro have never been that great, so i think it's the same as in 1). And i just don't want to hack a PC GPU.
5) Specialized Hardware Cards: If you need a highly specialized Card, then you need a Mac Pro. At least for now.
Lets wait and see if there will be an external Solution over Thunderbolt (like a Housing for External Cards). This could be the death blow for a Mac Pro, because the Market for it will be very small.
I'm on your side, Pros. I'm one of you. But think about all these options and then ask yourself: If you would be Apple, would you keep the Mac Pro in the lineup?
I don't know. Just asking a question.
And Meanwhile, the Macintosh II i worked on (who cost over 20.000 Deutsche Mark back in the 80s when it was bought) has never been upgraded besides the HDD.
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5770? if that indeed ends up being the graphics card that ships with the 2012 Mac Pro then.............wow.
It must be a typo or mis-information.
I am also still finding this '3rd' Macbook line thing hard to comprehend. I just don't see where it even fits in. It is a better air but a lesser pro? A better pro? (Macbook Pro PRO), a Macbook Retina?
Just seems...hard to believe.
It must be a typo or mis-information.
I am also still finding this '3rd' Macbook line thing hard to comprehend. I just don't see where it even fits in. It is a better air but a lesser pro? A better pro? (Macbook Pro PRO), a Macbook Retina?
Just seems...hard to believe.
It's not so much getting more power for your money over time, it's having more power at your fingertips there and then. A Quad Core iMac with a decent mobile graphics card is fast at converting footage and rendering graphics, but a 12 Core Mac Pro with a high spec GPU is infinitely faster. And with Pros, time is money.
Colour me spoiled, but the hidpi screens on my smartphone and ipad 3 make the 1440x900 MBP screen look anything but crisp now. I'd accept worse battery life in return for a retina display.
The only problem with using that processor is that it uses dual-channel memory...so there's literally no way to configure it with 6GB of RAM, since neither 1.5GB (x4) or 3GB (x2) memory combos exist.
Also, if E3 Xeons were used in the base configuration, then there'd be no possibility of a six-core BTO model without also swapping the motherboard and going to an E5-based solution. I can't imagine that Apple would even bother offering a Mac Pro with such low specs -- you'd be better off buying an iMac. Besides, the last-gen base model was available with a BTO 6-core chip, so this would be a major step backwards.
This.
I think people sometimes miscomprehend the cost that comes with a delay of product launch. It can run at tens or hundreds of thousands a day, with big products millions.
The price difference of iMac vs. Mac Pro is peanuts in the big picture.
Damn good point. 20 silver shekels to this man!
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No, it means that you can connect your Mac computer to an Ethernet network without an Ethernet port. Connecting a G5 to the TBD via Ethernet would not achieve much.