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Details on New Mac Pro and MacBook Pro Specs Surface, Retina Notebook Still Under Wraps [Updated]

KnightWRX said:
The rumors are again this year, all over the place. Keep in mind people, Apple does simple things. Rumors that make it out to be complicated or too "option filled" are almost always wrong from what I've seen. What we're probably in for :

- iOS 6, OS X 10.8, some iCloud or other piece of software at WWDC keynote. No new hardware here, it's going to be a software event. They have scheduled 1h and 30 minutes for the keynote and have tons of software to preview.

- Tomorrow morning, we get the new Macs on the website. Ivy Bridge bumps accross the whole portable and consumer desktops line-up, maybe a surprise disappearance of the 17" MBP (it's oddly been missing from line-ups of rumors). Mac Pro will get the Sandy-Bridge E.

There is no retina stuff coming. The 3rd line of Macbooks is a lie. If you get your hopes up, you'll be here whining tomorrow that it didn't pan out. Get used to it right now.

There is no iPhone 6 announcement. The new "iPhone" is coming this fall again with the release of iOS 6. You won't get any official details about it. All the leaks mean nothing. If you get your hopes up, you'll be here whining for the next week that it didn't pan out. Get used to it right now.

There is no Apple TV set coming. I don't need to explain this one. Even the rumors are saying late this year or next year, but frankly, I find that Apple getting into the monitor side of the TV business to be ridicule. They reach a broader audience with a set-top box that works and adding an array of pixels to it that's Apple branded does nothing to help.

I hope this helps a few to understand what we're getting. There will be plenty of good stuff, but frankly, it's going to be impossible to live up to the hype, again.
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I think this is mostly correct, however I do think we may get a 15" Air (even if it doesn't include a "Retina" display). Samsung and others already have 15" "Ultrabooks" and I also saw a Samsung ad yesterday for their 15" Series 9 that took a not-so-subtle shot at the MacBook Pro line. I'm sure Apple wants to compete in the 15" thin notebook space.

Announcing iOS 6 today likely means we'll get the new iPhone in late September - I agree with the reports that say that Apple would rather get the launch into Calendar Q3 rather than wait until Q4 like last year. It would add a few million iPhone sales to (hopefully) avoid last year's "earnings miss."
 
KnightWRX said:
The rumors are again this year, all over the place. Keep in mind people, Apple does simple things. Rumors that make it out to be complicated or too "option filled" are almost always wrong from what I've seen. What we're probably in for :

- iOS 6, OS X 10.8, some iCloud or other piece of software at WWDC keynote. No new hardware here, it's going to be a software event. They have scheduled 1h and 30 minutes for the keynote and have tons of software to preview.

- Tomorrow morning, we get the new Macs on the website. Ivy Bridge bumps accross the whole portable and consumer desktops line-up, maybe a surprise disappearance of the 17" MBP (it's oddly been missing from line-ups of rumors). Mac Pro will get the Sandy-Bridge E.

There is no retina stuff coming. The 3rd line of Macbooks is a lie. If you get your hopes up, you'll be here whining tomorrow that it didn't pan out. Get used to it right now.

There is no iPhone 6 announcement. The new "iPhone" is coming this fall again with the release of iOS 6. You won't get any official details about it. All the leaks mean nothing. If you get your hopes up, you'll be here whining for the next week that it didn't pan out. Get used to it right now.

There is no Apple TV set coming. I don't need to explain this one. Even the rumors are saying late this year or next year, but frankly, I find that Apple getting into the monitor side of the TV business to be ridicule. They reach a broader audience with a set-top box that works and adding an array of pixels to it that's Apple branded does nothing to help.

I hope this helps a few to understand what we're getting. There will be plenty of good stuff, but frankly, it's going to be impossible to live up to the hype, again.
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I agree so hard.
 
I would find it funny if they don't announce or talk about hardware at all. Just ML and iOS 6. That would put the rUmor sites in their place.
 
DrFu79 said:
I think it's just a question of time. Apple already gave notice (i think it was in part a clever marketing move) with the long wait for a refresh. I'm expecting a last update, lets hope for all who depend on the unit that it's a decent one.
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The long refresh time was Intel's doing, not Apple's. There were no new CPUs to put in there.

An i7 is not a workstation chip, no matter how many times people say it is.

It's not like anyone else was updating their workstations in that time, not really. Now that Intel finally got their act together, they are. Apple will too.
 
leman said:
No, it means that you will be able to connect a Thunderbolt Display to a network router.

(On a more serious note, this is for MB Air without a dedicated ethernet port and similar machines).
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I think it is so you can have a network adapter over Thunderbolt not the other way around.
 
Konrad said:
France is playing England at about the same time. Here, in Europe, the watching choice is a no brainer.
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Apple, I presume. :D

Our sports weekend was a bust (there was even a WSJ article about it). No Triple Crown. No French Open winner (it came early this morning - on cable). No Stanley Cup winner (maybe tonight). Miami back in the NBA finals.
 
BornAgainMac said:
If Apple does do subpar with high prices and no redesign with the Mac Pro then they want people to not buy it. Then they can say next year they are dropping it because nobody buys it. I have seen them do this before with other Macs. It is in their DNA.
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Yep.

And then you'll hear the obligato sheeple chorus of ' people don't want to buy it 'cause the desktop is dead so why should Apple do a great update'. :rolleyes:
 
mrxak said:
The long refresh time was Intel's doing, not Apple's. There were no new CPUs to put in there.

An i7 is not a workstation chip, no matter how many times people say it is.

It's not like anyone else was updating their workstations in that time, not really. Now that Intel finally got their act together, they are. Apple will too.
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i7 is a fine chip to make home movies or modify the white balance on Mom's birthday party pictures. It suck major *** for pro apps.
 
mrxak said:
The long refresh time was Intel's doing, not Apple's. There were no new CPUs to put in there.

An i7 is not a workstation chip, no matter how many times people say it is.

It's not like anyone else was updating their workstations in that time, not really. Now that Intel finally got their act together, they are. Apple will too.
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Yeah, it's always somebody else's fault for Apple epic foot draging. :rolleyes:

Was there a commandment on the stone tablets that forbade Apple from making an affordable, fast, good value, non-workstation tower? :mad:
 
9 to 5 has finally cracked under the pressure. They were actually close, but forgot the floppy disk drive in the new Mac Pro. :rolleyes:
 
foodog said:
i7 is a fine chip to make home movies or modify the white balance on Mom's birthday party pictures. It suck major *** for pro apps.
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Agreed. My poor MacBook Pro could barely get through a simple SD project (rendering took forever), while my 12-Core Mac Pro cut through it like a hot knife through butter (and time=money for us). It's ironic they show a MacBook Pro running FCPX, 10.0.4 on a fully loaded MacBook Pro or iMac is nothing compared to the power needed from a Mac Pro. Notebooks may be good with Thunderbolt drive for on location shoots, but not for rendering and edits. Desktop form may change, but power and screen real estate are crucial components that are always needed.

"The desktop is dead," right. :rolleyes:
 
xgman said:
9 to 5 has finally cracked under the pressure. They were actually close, but forgot the floppy disk drive in the new Mac Pro. :rolleyes:
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foodog said:
i7 is a fine chip to make home movies or modify the white balance on Mom's birthday party pictures. It suck major *** for pro apps.
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BS. Truly, unbelievable baloney. You can't be serious. :rolleyes:
I can build an $900 box that will cream the $2,500 base MAc Pro
in Pro apps. You have absolutely no credibility.
 
KPOM said:
Apple, I presume. :D

Our sports weekend was a bust (there was even a WSJ article about it). No Triple Crown. No French Open winner (it came early this morning - on cable). No Stanley Cup winner (maybe tonight). Miami back in the NBA finals.
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It really is crucifying... England's opening game is a must-watch, but then I can't bare to catch up on the Apple goss after its all happened! Arghhh
 
I'm appalled! Based on this rumour and the fact that it doesnt meet any of my made up expectations I'm throwing away all my Apple gear immediately. Windows here I come, Microsoft never lets you down, they've said so.
 
Store is down, here we go!

Edit: it was down for only a moment, very strange... Also, the Mac Pro page isnt't loading up properly.
 
KPOM said:
I think this is mostly correct, however I do think we may get a 15" Air (even if it doesn't include a "Retina" display). Samsung and others already have 15" "Ultrabooks" and I also saw a Samsung ad yesterday for their 15" Series 9 that took a not-so-subtle shot at the MacBook Pro line. I'm sure Apple wants to compete in the 15" thin notebook space.
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I wouldn't get my hopes up on that 15" Air. Apple has a long standing of tying screen sizes to prices/missions, and frankly, they've never been fond of the bigger than 13" in the consumer line-up.

While a 15" Air is a possibility, i'd put it down under the "surprise" tab. Remember all the other years and crazy model rumors that never panned out. Apple just doesn't follow the rest of the industry, and basing any kind of "hope" on industry goings is quite futile I've found.

Don't set yourself up for disapointment. Just hope the specs bumps are good and if something else crops up, then we can be pleasantly surprised rather than disappointed it didn't.
 
For me, it's definitely a no brainer. Football. I'll catch up on the Apple news after the second half. It'll probably still be going on actually.

[Edit] No wait.. the game will be finished by then. Get to do both!

miniroll32 said:
It really is crucifying... England's opening game is a must-watch, but then I can't bare to catch up on the Apple goss after its all happened! Arghhh
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