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Why? No really ... has the vertically integrated, spiritually holistic Mac experience with Safari and/or Firefox suddenly been disappointing?

:rolleyes:

Keep the chrome on the Chevy bumpers and Denny's diner decorum please. Do we really NEED another web browser?

Yes. Chrome is the only browser so far with sandboxing technology built right in. It increases the stability and security for everybody by default by making sure that each tab is a different process and the plugins are also a different process. (IE8 might have this technology but it is unclear).

Mozilla is already getting ready a team to start the sandboxing technology for the next major version of Firefox, not 3.5. Possible the 4.0 release.

Chrome also brings for the Mac users, the sandboxing along with extensions ability to a superfast webkit browser that Safari won't have at least until Safari 5.

Competition is better for everybody, it means each browser now has to compete for users and need to add innovative features to separate it from others.
 
I'm betting most of that is still IE7. Most Windows users I run across in dealing with clients don't even know IE8 exists much less another browser.

feel free to use brown paper bag...

I would be willing to bet a high percentage still use 6.
 
Count me as one of the frustrated. I am fed up with Firefox these days, and Safari is not something I enjoy using. I recently started using Chrome over FF in Windows, and it is a lot better. I have too many issues with Firefox these days.

Firefox is essentially guilty of the same issues they first came around to overcome, and that is slow and bloated browsers.

So time to move on as ever these things seem to cycle. I just hope they get Chrome up to speed for the Mac soon, as my macbook is my main machine these days.
 
Chrome barely installs on a Mac, let alone that it doesn't even run halve as smooth as Mozilla Firefox, not to mention the lack of add-ons. Yeah, your post was a pretty ridiculous one.


Perhaps that's because it's hardly even done. You guys sounds like you hate what Google is doing here. They're working hard on providing a new browser to compete with Firefox for OS X. Do they have to? Heck no. Honestly, I'm not a fan of Firefox on OS X. Its never felt as good as its Windows twin.

I guess I'm just remembering the days 10.2 (Jaguar) and having IE as the only real option (there were other Mac browsers at the time, but they all sucked).
 
Yes. Chrome is the only browser so far with sandboxing technology built right in. It increases the stability and security for everybody by default by making sure that each tab is a different process and the plugins are also a different process. (IE8 might have this technology but it is unclear).

That can't be overstated. I have tons of browser windows and tabs open most of the time. Firefox handles having 250-300 browser tabs open very poorly. I have had to kill 2.8 gig footprints of firefox before on my Mac. This does not bother me in and of itself. What bothers me is if I close windows and shutdown tabs, none of that memory is actually reclaimed until I actually dump firefox altogether. Which is highly annoying. I hate rebooting, and I hate shutting down my browser. I open stuff for ideas to come back later, and unless I manually go through, I don't want my browser windows closed down. Forcing a shutdown and restart of FF does not help me much because half the windows do not reload properly because they required a login or go to some expired page or something else that makes it less than useful.

One of the things I love about Chrome is that each tab is independent.
 
Yes. Chrome is the only browser so far with sandboxing technology built right in. It increases the stability and security for everybody by default by making sure that each tab is a different process and the plugins are also a different process.
From what I have read Stainless (http://www.stainlessapp.com/) does exactly the same as well (and it is far more stable than Chrome on the Mac).
 
I've looked at webstats for the pages I control -- a scary percentage are still on IE6. Kind of unreal.

My college still uses 6 because they have third party software that really locks the computer settings down. No doubt they would have to do some work to make 7 work with it, so when MS release IE9 I think they will finally switch to 7.
 
From what I have read Stainless (http://www.stainlessapp.com/) does exactly the same as well (and it is for more stable than Chrome on the Mac).

interesting, I forgot about that one but that's the problem, isn't it?

Why isn't there any marketing for it? It is possible they are waiting for the 1.0 production release of their browser, but the longer they delay that, the more chance of Chrome becoming more powerful every week and with Google's brand behind it, Stainless may not have any chance of surviving it. Not to mention there's only a Mac version of it. Chrome is on multiple platforms, plans to have extensions support and so on.

I wish Mesa Dymanics (Stainless' dev) the best but I honestly don't think they have any chance after Chrome 1.0 is release with all the features enabled.
 
interesting, I forgot about that one but that's the problem, isn't it?

Why isn't there any marketing for it? It is possible they are waiting for the 1.0 production release of their browser, but the longer they delay that, the more chance of Chrome becoming more powerful every week and with Google's brand behind it, Stainless may not have any chance of surviving it. Not to mention there's only a Mac version of it. Chrome is on multiple platforms, plans to have extensions support and so on.

I wish Mesa Dymanics (Stainless' dev) the best but I honestly don't think they have any chance after Chrome 1.0 is release with all the features enabled.
Stainless was initially just a demonstration project showing off their technological prowess. After Google released Chrome for Windows, they slapped together a working version in just a couple of weeks.
Stainless was just a hobby, apart from a 'Donate' button on their website, they have no revenue stream. I still think they see Stainless as a promotional vehicle for the rest of their business. If it receives an honourable mention behind the heavyweights (IE, FF, S,Chrome, OP), they are probably absolutely happy.

To me, the choice of browser becomes less and less important. I manage my bookmarks with Delicious, my passwords with the keychain (Safari, Camino, Stainless all use it). I have flashblocks in both Safari and Camino. Only the bookmarks bar really ties me any given browser. The rest is visual (where Camino wins for me). Speed is fine in Camino as well, even if Safari 4 (or rather the WebKit nightlies) might be a bit better. Stability (and speed and memory usage) might tilt me a bit towards Chrome/Stainless at times.
And logging into multiple Gmail accounts with Stainless (using single session tabs) makes me use Stainless for Gmail.

In a sense, a browser has become like a text editor, I always have a couple open since I prefer some for some tasks and others for others.
 
interesting, I forgot about that one but that's the problem, isn't it?

Why isn't there any marketing for it? It is possible they are waiting for the 1.0 production release of their browser, but the longer they delay that, the more chance of Chrome becoming more powerful every week and with Google's brand behind it, Stainless may not have any chance of surviving it. Not to mention there's only a Mac version of it. Chrome is on multiple platforms, plans to have extensions support and so on.

I wish Mesa Dymanics (Stainless' dev) the best but I honestly don't think they have any chance after Chrome 1.0 is release with all the features enabled.
There are a few OS X only browsers that rarely get any attention.

Shiira and iCab come to mind. I know there are a few others.
 
There are a few OS X only browsers that rarely get any attention.

Shiira and iCab come to mind. I know there are a few others.

Cruz and Demeter are another two. But how many of them are still in development?
 
There are a few OS X only browsers that rarely get any attention.

Shiira and iCab come to mind. I know there are a few others.
Yes, Shiira has had this nice idea of the filling up miniature at the bottom but whenever I tried it I had run into a bug within minutes. Browsers either have to convince me visually or have some killer features and they better do either of these two things before I run into bugs.
Stainless is not bad visually but somehow too edgy, I'll much prefer Camino, Safari is also fine but a bit too earnest looking (I much prefer the golden Dock icon of the WebKit nightlies).
 
Chrome beginning to beat Mozilla Firefox? What a joke – Chrome barely installs on a Mac, let alone that it doesn't even run halve as smooth as Mozilla Firefox, not to mention the lack of add-ons. Yeah, your post was a pretty ridiculous one.

Hum you need to take a look at some of the tests data on the web. Chrome is the fastest browser on windows. But it actually had no extensions although there is some experimental extension framework. There are some test that try to compare Chrome with Safari but there is the problem of using a different OS so no comment there. Anyway the JavaScript engine is wicked fast and the rendering engine is ... well webkit so you know it's a fast browser. I'll still pick Safari 4 over it and even FF but give it another year of development and who knows we might actually have the next FF. Heck I'd be happy if Apple adopts the multiple process idea if nothing else.
 
Cruz and Demeter are another two. But how many of them are still in development?
I'd say outside of the big companies (S, FF, Opera, Chrome) only Camino has pretty regular nightly builds (I might be wrong about the other Gecko derivatives).
 
Chrome is the fastest browser on windows.
There are some test that try to compare Chrome with Safari but there is the problem of using a different OS so no comment there.
Not really, as there is also Safari (and WebKit nightlies) for Windows. WebKit had the speed crown for a long time but Chrome now seems to battle it out with it, sometimes surpassing it (depending on version and test suite used).
 
I've been playing with it since the release. Pretty rough. I do not think that Chome on OSX will take me away from Safari anytime soon, if ever.

Chrome on the PC is great. I dumped Firefox and Safari on my PC. Occasionally I use IE for stuff that doesn't work with Chrome. My gf is not tech savy at all, and she had me put Chrome on her Virus (vista)laptop. She can't be happier.

Lately I've had constant issues with Safari and Firefox on the MAC crashing for sites with Flash and other things. I have to go to a PC if I want to visit blabbermouth.net at work. If Chrome can view my favorite sites on the mac then I'll stop using Safari.
 
I use Chrome exclusively on Windows now as I hate Firefox and there isn't much else. I want better Bookmarking and History but otherwise I've quite enjoyed my time with Chrome. I spent a long time trying various Windows browsers to try to find something that didn't incite rage in me and Chrome has kept my blood pressure lowest of the lot.

Due to the silly OSX requirements I'm not going to try Chrome on OSX for a long time (if ever - I might sulk even after getting a good enough computer to run it). Safari is just about perfect for me, though stability in the beta is really horrible and there are some small interface tweaks I would like to have soon. The most professional-feeling overall browser on OSX for my purposes is definitely Camino. I think it's fantastic and it's only a matter of time before Safari's sudden closing with multiple tabs open annoys me and I swap to Camino as my main browser. Unlike everyone else they project an air of actually caring about their users which is a rare and beautiful thing in this era.
 
I'm confused. What's the difference between Chrome and Chromium and why has the icon changed all of a sudden? :confused:
 
Chrome - i mean, really...who cares?

Sarfari, Firefox, IE, Opera and now Chrome. To me this is like another word processor or spreadsheet software package. Personally, I use Firefox as I have never been a big fan of Safari or MS Exploder. I use Firefox on 2 platforms, OSX and Win 7. None of these browers are 'killer apps' in any sense.

One may be a bit faster than another or have a better UI from one perspective or another but, are, essentially the same.

So Google is making a browser for the Mac. Gee, wow. Way to go Google.....zzzzzzz
 
Didn't realy look forward to chrome on mac, don't use the windows version either. But it looks like this could be a big competetor of safari, because it's already beginning to beat FF and off course IE7(or 8) on windows.

Well that's just a silly thing to say. Chrome has 3% of IE's market share and 8% of Firefox's and it has actually lost market share since the initial surge at launch.
 
Safari is good, but.....

Safari is good, but I'm always thinking about cross vendor to make my life better.
Apple already make an awesome work on Mac, Os X, even Safari and the Web-Kit.
But We still need to remember, how ease the safari been hacked. Not really ease but at least the fastest to be broke in the event, while the Chrome on Windows does not able to hacked.

It's because the architecture, multi process and sand boxing.
Then how about Mac + Os X + Chrome? It should be secured too.

I prefer it lack of add ons, just for day-to-day usage for security.
I'm already using Chromium (Nightly Builds) about half of month. Even I make script that could download the latest build anytime and update my chromium. It is version 3.0.184.0, an internal testing version (no update button within the browser)
While the development version is 3.0.182.1 and there is update button in the about window.

The big issue, it still have irritated bug, if open the search, then scroll the page, the search widget destroyed the page. While I'm rely on the search ob my daily work, then I could not really use Chrome day-to-day
 
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