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Developers Frustrated at Apple for Just One Day's Notice to Submit Apps Ahead of iOS 14 Release Today
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maybe read more than one page of this thread and how software development and testing phases actually works
I think if this were the case, Apple wouldn't have just a week or two ago announced it's delaying a bunch of anti-tracking features after a couple big developers (namely Facebook) complained.
I think it's more likely that these releases got pushed onto such a tight schedule because Apple has to satisfy resellers and Wall Street with new hardware releases (fiscal year 2020 ends for Apple in a couple weeks), and that new hardware required the new software.
Breaking news from developers... the developers who were successful in submitting new apps last night using the last second Xcode build are having the apps approved in mass only hours later. The good news is a surprising number of iOS 14 apps may just make the release but concerning news is obviously someone at Apple told the review team the criteria for checking iOS 14 apps last night was “does it launch? ... good enough for us!” so hopefully no big surprises!
But then they might need to adopt a position that Apple is sometimes wrong, and their whole worldview will apparently crumble.
I'm not a developer but I cannot understand how anyone is defending Apple in this case...
As an iPhone user I want all my apps to work reliably without crashing/obvious bugs. Giving developers virtually no time to test and submit their builds for the GM is the exact opposite of reliability and creates a huge potential for unintended behaviors with customers' apps.
Actually, this can't be in Apple's interest either...
As an iPhone user I want all my apps to work reliably without crashing/obvious bugs. Giving developers virtually no time to test and submit their builds for the GM is the exact opposite of reliability and creates a huge potential for unintended behaviors with customers' apps.
Actually, this can't be in Apple's interest either...
The conversation started polite, but people have been trying to dunk on developers in this thread from the beginning, like they know what they're talking about. I'm not at all shocked that some of them are getting snarky.
Thanks for explaining. It’s unfortunate Apple did not give the developers more time before iOS14 launched. I hope you do not have to go through the process you described.
I submitted my app update yesterday but Apple rejected it because I mentioned the update was for iOS 14 and mentioning an unreleased OS is not allowed.... 
2020 has been an absolute dumpster fire of a year for relations between Apple and developers; and Apple’s adversarial posture toward developers continues with this little stunt.
If the OS releases had to be this week due to the new hardware releasing on Friday, I’m not sure why Apple couldn’t have thrown developers a little bit of a bone and made the public release of the new OSs happen tomorrow instead of today.
If the OS releases had to be this week due to the new hardware releasing on Friday, I’m not sure why Apple couldn’t have thrown developers a little bit of a bone and made the public release of the new OSs happen tomorrow instead of today.
Coming into this thread I figured I'd get a few good laughs from people that are extremely uninformed, but even I must admit that the number of people who know less than nothing about the entire process but think they know it all is even more comical than I expected. Lots of good laughs this morning!
🤮 this is why Apple just screwed developers... because the average user like this one can’t be bothered to do anything but blame developers who through no fault of their own won’t have iOS 14 apps available at launch. makes me sick, and I’m not a developer.
1: It's not.
2: Waiting (praying) for Apple to fix bugs before investing time to work around them.
3: Apple hasn't updated Xcode in 3 weeks, which means that reliable physical testing is out the window.
4. There have been dramatic changes to APIs and systems between B1 and B8, including some things that made it impossible to work with on earlier versions.
5. There's not enough time for any proper QA tests! Biggest complaint from me. Sadness.
In fairness, when the general tone of the first responses was "Cry me a river and next time maybe do your job" from people who clearly had no idea what they were talking about, it because understandable how the responses were what they were.
What are the new devices going to come with? Timmy said iOS14. Are they updating millions? of devices this week before shipping, or are they coming with one of the betas? Everything I've ever bought has needed updates right away. Maybe the Ghost of Jony is trying to make the amount of time between GM and release even thinner.
In this thread:
A bunch of people who don't know how development works, telling developers they're wrong about how development works.
A bunch of people who don't know how development works, telling developers they're wrong about how development works.
Says the person flying in with a strong off the cuff opinion when they clearly have no idea what they're talking about.
We seem to now live in a world with uneducated people who have strong opinions.
Not true at all. I don't NOT make apps because it's hard. I don't make apps because I have zero desire to do so.
Reading through this thread and people saying they’ve had no problem with apps during the iOS 14 beta...I guess being clueless that prior to today there were ZERO apps in the App Store supporting any new iOS 14 feature (like widgets) because they weren’t allowed to be submitted. If you can’t spare a thought for developers then how about all the Apple employees within app review who are frantically reviewing and approving app submissions right now.
Wait till people start moaning when they download an app and it doesn't work.
...except, if you had read comments not far above yours, developers CAN'T submit apps made with a beta Xcode. They only got the necessary GM Xcode yesterday.
I’ve thought the same. That poster posts within the first page on virtually every news story and is lauding Apple in every post with zero nuance or analysis.
I'll just wait to update to iOS14 for a week or so. Let all the latest versions of app funnel into the store. I'm sure my battery life will thank me for not running buggy versions of apps.
Updating an app can take months, that's what the betas are for. Final adjustments due to bugs only discovered in the last version can still take a week. Builds can take a day. The app review process takes a few days.
Same. I am going to wait until Nov (most likely when the new iPhones will be announced or even released).