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It is the infantilization of software, making it appeal to kids rather than adults. Candification, with transparency and effects using the combined wattage of a medium nuclear power plant. Duolingofication, just plain silly.

Disagree. Aqua was more candified and playful than either the Yosemite look or the Big Sur look. If anything, it looks more utilitarian than previous versions.
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i dont even understand why there is a green shadow in that position. Makes no sense to me and looks like someone was just missing a spot when using a photoshop tool too aggressively
It’s a 3D icon that is mean to look like a bulging text bubble. It is a physically accurate reflection. It does look out of place though, along with the battery health icon.
 
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Overall, Denty's takeaway is that the UI differences in Big Sur aren't as dramatic as he first thought, consisting of a "largely incremental set of changes to make macOS feel more coherent with iOS and iPad OS."

Soon the Mac will be nothing more than an Apple version of the Surface Pro and it will just be iOS.
 
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I love it. Fresh. Brings a more holistic approach to Apple's eco-system. Expected with the move to AS.

Mac OS was starting to look or was a hotch potch of the last ten years. It needed picking up by the neck and given a good wash.

Just waiting for Apple to ship a new iMac so I can try it out. :p

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Soon the Mac will be nothing more than an Apple version of the Surface Pro and it will just be iOS.

A good thing. As Apple will do it better.

Azrael.
 
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Just make one OS already. We all know that's what you're heading toward.

Actually, they’ve been heading in the other direction - the iPad broke off and is now called iPadOS rather than iOS, OSX was renamed to macOS.

Of course it’s all the same thing under the hood. But it makes me think they won’t have one unifying brand name for all their operating systems.
 
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Quite the contrary, it looks fantastic. This refresh is long overdue. Very excited to get it.

You and me both. The people trashing this are just looking for stuff to complain about like they do every single release. You'd think after the disaster that was Catalina they'd appreciate this...but yeah, no. "Ewwwww...the new icons are disgusting, blah blah blah...made for kids...blah blah..."
 
The white bezel at the top follows the design choice of File Explorer in Windows 10. In its default state, it will prove difficult to use for persons with visual disabilities.



macOS 11 Big Sur is the next major release of Apple's operating system for Mac, and following its preview at WWDC, one of the biggest discussions has revolved around the all-new user interface redesign.

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Developers are still learning what the impact the new UI will have on their apps, and with that in mind, app designer Andrew Denty has compiled an extensive visual comparison of the user interface changes between macOS Catalina and macOS Big Sur.
The side-by-side comparisons cover changes to Finder, Preview, System Preferences, the menu bar, Notification Center, Safari, Calendar, Contacts, Reminders, Notes, Photos, Apple Music, Podcasts, and many other native apps.

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Overall, Denty's takeaway is that the UI differences in Big Sur aren't as dramatic as he first thought, consisting of a "largely incremental set of changes to make macOS feel more coherent with iOS and iPad OS."

That said, he thinks Apple "still has a vast amount of work to do to perfect the new macOS UI" before it exits the beta, and he hopes to see more consistency in the launch experience of apps, as well as more visual separation in elements like status bars and path bars, which he admits "look a little unloved" and don't yet feel properly integrated.


Big Sur is available for developers at the current time, but Apple also plans to make a beta available for public beta testers in July, followed by an official release in the fall. What are your thoughts on the redesigned UI? Let us know in the comments below, and don't forget to check out our Big Sur roundup for an extensive look at all the new features.

Article Link: Developer's Visual Comparison of macOS Catalina and Big Sur Offers Closer Look at Apple's UI Redesign for Macs
 
yes but... did they fix all of the Catalina problems so many people are complaining about?
I mean, it is a great day if all of the issues with Big Sur are about the shadow on the icons.

(I don't have Catalina yet, so don't ask me to be more specific)
 
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When the desktop picture is dark the selected folder in the Finder sidebar isn't visible. The same happens in apps with a dark theme and file open dialogs. The extra whitespace wasn't necessary.

Don't try to get rid of the ridiculously transparent menubar because you then get menubar applets white in white.

Quite a few apps crash. I can make TextEdit crash with simple text files. The new iOS messageboxes look ridiculous. Even there displaying lots of text is too complicated because the text shows up below the scrollbar.

Yes, BS it looks "fresh" - whatever that means - but the usability has gotten even worse.
 
Not a big fan of the rounded dock and new icons but what of that? There isn't much you can do to keep those "updated" except slightly change their appearance from time to time. Remember when OS X first arrived it was "lickable" yet eventually that look became worn and dated. Twas ever thus.
 
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the new navigation bar or lack thereof in the finder etc. is just done for the hell of change no? maybe i am getting old and i cant believe i am saying this but "why change something that works". now its all white on white and somewhat hard to see.

Also the shadows on the icons, no just no. Especially that green "vomit smudge" on the iMessages and FaceTime icon. And why is a shadow green? Why are they not the same on iOS anyway? so many questions
Indeed! All that white makes no sense, looks like Windows. It's much better now, definitely a step back. Typical.
 
I'm currently using it and I'm in love with it.

I get that it looks more like iOS, and it's really not a huge deal, but it marks yet another drop in visual fidelity that I have always loved so much about MacOS. That was part of what gave it a premium feel that felt great and that Windows users envied. As always with Apple, sometimes I feel they run with philosophical changes that cheapen the platform. But it could've been worse... :)
 
I don't really care what it looks like. It seems tolerable. Maybe looks nice in places. (Finder window appearance looks worse). Only thing that's important to me is stability and not breaking software
 
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I wish they could come up with a better icon for Safari. I have full-on hate for that ugly blue compass thing. I despise it.

The bigger issue is when they give up and just add a white round rect backdrop to the icon because they're too lazy to redesign it in their preferred shape. At least I could tell the old Safari icon apart from every other blue icon.
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Edit: BTW, does the System Preferences > Accessibility > Display still support "Reduced transperency" in BigSur?

Yes, this is what I need to know!
 
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This is one of the best updates in a very long time. I love the fact that we've done away with old-fashioned window frames, which were minimal already in past releases and that space is now occupied by tools and titles. I honestly adore the new look. There are a few glitches but nothing to write home about. My only question is, will we get a Dev Beta 2 this evening along with a Public Beta 1 release?
 
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Despite Apple saying touchscreen Mac's are wrong this all seems to fit a touchscreen design.

Apple said they wouldn't make a phone.

And they did.

Apple say 'alot' of things.

Touch screen Macs are coming. And Big Sur aint too subtle about that. (Everything nicely spaced out and finger slider, press and finger 'touch' shaped...)

A Surface style product pending.

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This is one of the best updates in a very long time. I love the fact that we've done away with old-fashioned window frames, which were minimal already in past releases and that space is now occupied by tools and titles. I honestly adore the new look. There are a few glitches but nothing to write home about. My only question is, will we get a Dev Beta 2 this evening along with a Public Beta 1 release?

It makes the last ten years seem dated. It was once design tweaked bolted onto another.

This seems far fresher and unifies Mac OS with the fundamental eco-system of iOS.

The iPad OS moves to Mac OS. The Mac OS moves to iOS/iPad OS.

Convergence.


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It is the infantilization of software, making it appeal to kids rather than adults. Candification, with transparency and effects using the combined wattage of a medium nuclear power plant. Duolingofication, just plain silly.

I whole-heartedly agree with your assessment. It's all becoming rather childish in appearance.
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Glorious days of Mac OS X interface.

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Yes. This.
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You can install Big Sur to an external drive and boot from the external by holding down the Option key at boot and selecting the external boot volume. There is no reason to install a beta OS over a working production OS.

Yes, but the question is: how do you install it to an external drive?
 
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