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i dont think the design is flawed at all personally. you just need to be careful these aren't kid toys like some ppl point them out to be
 
i just think they ran out of room inside the phone. the bigger battery took up more space and rather than change the size of the phone, they just added an external antenna.
 
actually a phone that you can't make a call with or browse the internet is a kids toy
 
The design has actually improved my service in several areas so I can't complain. I've gone to numerous places where my calls have dropped and I'm sitting at 5 bars on average.
 
They had to satisfy the consumers' constant demands. We all wanted a smaller next-generation iPhone with better features. They could have come out with a 3GS sized phone/case and said look what we added but the press and the public would not pick up on it.

Personally, I think they thought the antenna around the case was a good idea but they definitely were aware of possible issues with the science of it. Thus, the bumpers were made and very strongly sold during the keynote. So yes, we have a more advanced phone that's the smallest size on the market for its specifications, but many people just want the thing to work perfectly out of the box.

I think most of us have to understand that advancements in technology come with benefits and costs. It takes time to perfect a redesign. Yet, in the end, Apple seems to improve our lives and experience with the products over time. Just look at the unibody enclosures. They spent millions in R&D for those and we now take it for granted in all newly released Apple products.

I've had good and bad experiences with Apple products over the years. I think they can handle the issues and try to remedy individual cases as much as possible. Like it or not, they still have one of the highest rated tech support teams in the world.
 
i just think they ran out of room inside the phone. the bigger battery took up more space and rather than change the size of the phone, they just added an external antenna.

They might have kept the same size as 3GS but for some reason they decided to go slimmer. I guess they miscalculated. Now every iPhone will have to have a case. Still, the phones in the store will stay naked and beautiful ;)
 
Personally, I think they thought the antenna around the case was a good idea but they definitely were aware of possible issues with the science of it. Thus, the bumpers were made and very strongly sold during the keynote.

People keep saying this but were the bumpers really strongly pushed in the keynote? I thought they just mentioned them.
 
Sharp edges on the iPhone 4 ... just like the current MacBook Pro's ... no need for it.

Design flaw (sharp edges) appearing in more of their products instead of less, MacBook Pro's, Magic Mouse, iPhone 4 - ridiculous.
 
People keep saying this but were the bumpers really strongly pushed in the keynote? I thought they just mentioned them.

Well no Apple case has ever been made/promoted like a bumper since the iPod Socks.

There is a reason the bumper exists. Otherwise Apple would not have gone into the saturated case business.
 
Why does everyone always say steve jobs chose this, jobs chose that? Steve jobs is not the only one who makes decisions, I bet steve didn't even dewing the phone. He probably overlooks the design process, gives ideas here and there, but it's not all about him. Sure he has to agree with the final design but don't blame everything on him. There are hundreds of other big guns in apple you can blame.
 
Seriously how the **** can you hold a phone 'wrong'?? Do people actually think about where they're saying?
 
Why does everyone always say steve jobs chose this, jobs chose that? Steve jobs is not the only one who makes decisions, I bet steve didn't even dewing the phone. He probably overlooks the design process, gives ideas here and there, but it's not all about him. Sure he has to agree with the final design but don't blame everything on him. There are hundreds of other big guns in apple you can blame.

I agree...I especially hate people saying 'Only Stevie knows...'
 
I don't think the design is "fatally flawed," I do think everyone is blowing this out of proportion without any scientific evidence (does anyone realize that there have been no controlled tests on this?). I think the right choices were made with this phone. It's slick as hell and fast with great download/upload speeds and I have yet to have any call quality issues.
 
I don't think the design is "fatally flawed," I do think everyone is blowing this out of proportion without any scientific evidence (does anyone realize that there have been no controlled tests on this?). I think the right choices were made with this phone. It's slick as hell and fast with great download/upload speeds and I have yet to have any call quality issues.

I agree completely. Can we hold offbon these types of threads until Monday when a patch will hopefully be released.
 
My iPhone 4 works better, as a phone, than my 3GS did. But to be fair, my wife's iP4 has exhibited some issues with yellow spots (that have mostly gone away now) and the antenna issue. So I'm not saying the problems don't exist, like some people. But, fatally flawed? I disagree.
 
I don't think the design is "fatally flawed," I do think everyone is blowing this out of proportion without any scientific evidence (does anyone realize that there have been no controlled tests on this?). I think the right choices were made with this phone. It's slick as hell and fast with great download/upload speeds and I have yet to have any call quality issues.

Words fail me. I don't need scientific evidence. I need a phone that makes phone calls without me picking it up with my finger tips.
 
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