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Nobody should care about his life, it's his life and he doesn't owe a damn apology to anyone.
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Did Tiger say the right things?
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Nobody should care about his life, it's his life and he doesn't owe a damn apology to anyone.
Ok, so the media could not ask questions
Pretend YOU are the media... what questions would you have asked?
Are there any questions you feel need to be answered?
I don't think any questions about the women, number of women, current status of the marriage, current relationships, etc are warranted
The only question I think is pertinent at this point would be "when are you playing again?"
Pretend YOU are the media... what questions would you have asked?
Are there any questions you feel need to be answered?
I don't think any questions about the women, number of women, current status of the marriage, current relationships, etc are warranted
The only question I think is pertinent at this point would be "when are you playing again?"
I couldn't agree more with this and really it's the only reason I was listening today. I just want to know when Tiger will be back on the course and this whole media hoopla will be dead and gone.
What little golf I watched, I watched because of Tiger's skill on the golf course, not because of his fidelity or lack thereof in the bedroom. I might question his choice of skanks to bang, but honestly, I don't care what he does off the course. I know his sponsors do, but that is their choice to sponsor or not.
I think he will be back for 1 warm up before the Master's
As far as the media hoopla, they feed on it and they create the hype because it justifies their job, not because we give a rat's ass about it
PS - I think he DID use performance enhancing drugs, and FWIW, to me, that is more of an issue and story than his infidelity
This is a public figure and a public matter.
He is not and has never has been a private figure. Who's money do you think made him rich? It's ours. He has every reason to apologize to the fans, to the kids who bought his products, and to the companies he was a pitchman for. Tiger Woods sold himself to the public, and we bought it.
So now, he does owe a public apology. Some of you here might not care, but you're probably not the folks who bought in. I know plenty of people who bought his gear, went to his tournaments, and gave to his charities. These people deserve an apology.
If I was a media reporter and had 1 question to ask him, as MacDawg posed, I would have asked him this:
When your children grow up and look back at the years AFTER these events. What will type of man will they see in their father?
He is not and has never has been a private figure. Who's money do you think made him rich? It's ours. He has every reason to apologize to the fans, to the kids who bought his products, and to the companies he was a pitchman for. Tiger Woods sold himself to the public, and we bought it.
So now, he does owe a public apology. Some of you here might not care, but you're probably not the folks who bought in. I know plenty of people who bought his gear, went to his tournaments, and gave to his charities. These people deserve an apology.
If I was a media reporter and had 1 question to ask him, as MacDawg posed, I would have asked him this:
When your children grow up and look back at the years AFTER these events. What will type of man will they see in their father?
Tiger would have been better off saying "**** and mind your own business bitches it's a personal matter and I'm cutting my losses" then split with the millions that are already his free and clear.
You shouldn't hold celebs to such high standards. They're not holy. Quite the opposite.
Private life + Public Figure ≠ Public Matter
I understand that some bought into the "Tiger hype"
But that was a personal choice of theirs
I don't believe he owes them anything
Now, the sponsors are a little different... but still, that is not a public matter to me
As I said, I think the performance enhancing drugs is a much more intriguing and pertinent issue
Caveat emptor buyer beware
Choose better role models
So does this mean I should demand my money back because I bought a slap chop then found out Vince Offer punched a hooker? Or a refund for that mighty putty I bought (works pretty good actually) because Billy Mays had ODed on coke and dropped dead? Should I return any Ronco products I own because the company went bankrupt? I am not going to stop eating Wheaties because Phelps smoked pot am I? or stop shopping at Kmart because Martha Stewart is a convicted felon?
At least he broke his silence and some will respect him for that and forgive him. The other half simply don't care, or find his apology useless, or forgot already and are waiting for him to play golf again.
I am glad I am not married to him or that I am his child. That being said, Tiger has at least a couple of more majors left in him and many smaller tournament titles to be won.
By the time he retires, there will be very few records that he didn't break, and maybe the records he breaks are his own (over and over again). I heard a sportscaster compare him in fame to Ali, and while that's somewhat premature, Tiger can achieve that type of worldwide recognition.
Tiger said something? Then no.
Honestly I'm more annoyed that the AP iPhone App thought this was important enough to alert me about before seven in the morning. Seriously, AP, at that hour there better be a fire.
Honestly I'm more annoyed that the AP iPhone App thought this was important enough to alert me about before seven in the morning. Seriously, AP, at that hour there better be a fire.
i would have said this.....
"Mr. Woods, what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul"
i would have said this.....
"Mr. Woods, what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul"
Nice Billy Madison reference.
I disagree in this case. This is more than his private life. Tiger presented his squeaky clean image to the world and asked us into his life. That makes it a public matter. He invited us years ago...
It was false advertising. In the least, he owes them an apology, and that's what he attempted to do today. It was sub par, and not in the good, golf, way.
Choose better role models? C'mon Dawg. A year ago, he would have been at the top of every parent's list. He was the BEST role model. Why do you think he apologized directly to the kids and their families in the speech? He accepted his position as role model and that's a major reason this is such a public matter.
You needed better role models growing up.
Just curious, when did Billy Mays become a role model? The only two of that group who accepted the fact that they were role models were Phelps and Stewart. They both offered very public apologies and rightfully so.
Even Micheal Vick recognized that what he did to the kids who looked up to him was wrong. He is a public figure and he knows it. Vick also, publicly apologized.
The defacto human condition is rooted in selfishness. Celebrities like Tiger are able to feed this desire with fame, fortune, wealth, and excess. Those who do not achieve this are often envious and jealous of those who have more than they do. Some impose moral expectations on the successful and then proclaim moral superiority so they can feel better. Regardless of the chosen attitude, there is a constant comparison game that gets played in the psyche and nothing satisfies quite like seeing someone who has "achieved" falter or come to ruin. I'm not saying this should be news, but understanding the human condition means knowing that watching the successful fall from grace will always be popular.
It's the nature of being human. We are most often both the authors and victims of our own undoing and boy do those around us find it entertaining to watch.
It's the nature of being human. We are most often both the authors and victims of our own undoing and boy do those around us find it entertaining to watch.
Tiger's image and the products he endorsed was more "elitist" than it was "squeaky clean". His appeal was "be like me... elite", not "be like me... a clean living family man"
He owes me nothing
He is a lesson in role models... everyone is human and don't expect them to be more than that
Great advice, kids. Expect nothing from your heroes. They'll only burn you in the end. Can't wait to teach my child that...
We know they're human, and of course, to err is human. But to bang a dozen whores when you're on the road while the wife and kids are holding down the fort? That's more than erring. That's disgraceful.
Your child will learn this on their own by watching the mistakes you make. That's why it's important to understand that you will be their primary role model in life. Thus, you better set a good example about how to admit it when you've made a mistake and how you plan to make it right.
No, I am saying choose your role models more wisely, and guide your kids accordingly. For the most part, celebrities and sports figures make lousy role models... and many, if not most will publicly announce they are not, in fact, to be seen as a role model. It can't be avoided completely, but certainly there are better choices.
The higher the pedestal you place someone on, the more devastating it is when they fall... shattered pieces and disappointment.
I looked at Tiger as a great golfer, not as a role model for me or anyone else.
To me, a great role model would have been my late Dad, and more recently my Uncle. Human? Yes. Flawed? Yes. But I admire them both and respect them greatly.
What a ridiculous statement. He isn't paid form taxpayer funds, he is paid by companies. If you are implying that this "our money" stuff is from ticket sales or the like, then that is just silly, no one makes people buy tickets to sporting events.
Almost all of my heroes growing up (besides my family) were sports figures. That's all I knew and all I did. Cal Ripken Jr. meant everything to me and to a large extent, he still does. You can't force role models on kids. They choose. Certainly not all athletes are role models, but some are, willingly. Tiger was one of them and that's what I'm talking about.
Lame response. I've already dignified it too much with a quote.