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Did Tiger say the right things?

Tilpots said:
Almost all of my heroes growing up (besides my family) were sports figures. That's all I knew and all I did. Cal Ripken Jr. meant everything to me and to a large extent, he still does. You can't force role models on kids. They choose. Certainly not all athletes are role models, but some are, willingly. Tiger was one of them and that's what I'm talking about.
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To me there is a difference between heroes and role models
I have sports figures that I followed, supported and cheered

But I didn't try to pattern my life after them
After all, I could never really know them
Yes, I could learn about dedication, teamwork and other similar things in a generic way
But I could never invest in them in a real and tangible way

My father and my uncle are different
I knew them on a personal level, and I could seek to emulate them in real life

You say Cal Ripken means everything to you
What exactly does that mean??
Do you know him?
Have you spent time with him?
 
Are kids really gonna be traumatized for the rest of their lives because the immaculate Tiger Woods screwed up? I doubt it. :rolleyes: Get real. If a kid is that impressionable, then the parents need to monitor what's on TV or prepare the kid for the real world.
 
MacDawg said:
You say Cal Ripken means everything to you
What exactly does that mean??
Do you know him?
Have you spent time with him?
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No, I didn't know him but I spent lots of time watching him. I looked up to his work ethic and used it as an example to follow in my life. But really this isn't about me.

My main issue here is with the folks who think this isn't a public affair (no pun intended). He's as big a public figure as there is in this world. He knows he public figure, accepted the role, and betrayed the trust of the people. His public apology was warranted. The publicity surrounding this case was warranted.
 
Tilpots said:
My main issue here is with the folks who think this isn't a public affair (no pun intended). He's as big a public figure as there is in this world. He knows he public figure, accepted the role, and betrayed the trust of the people. His public apology was warranted. The publicity surrounding this case was warranted.
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Betrayed the trust of the people? Really?
We see it differently, and that is OK

I see it as a creation by the media, for the media
The media creates attention whores, feeds their habits and then turns on them when it benefits them

All this circus needs is a big top, an elephant and bearded lady, cause it already has its clown
 
Tilpots said:
He knows he public figure, accepted the role, and betrayed the trust of the people. His public apology was warranted. The publicity surrounding this case was warranted.
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The only difference between him and most other celebrities is that he got caught. Not only caught, but in a manner that was a ratings holy grail for the media outlets.

Trust in him? He's not Tiger Woods, World's Spokesman for Monogamy. He's a golfer.
 
To quote Charles Barkley "I am not a role model. I am paid to wreak havoc on the basketball court
. Parents should be role models. Just because I dunk a basketball doesn't mean I should raise your kids."
 
Tilpots said:
Somebody please tell me that Tiger Woods, not anybody else, didin't position himself as a role model. All other athletes, stars, personalities, etc, are not who this conversation is about.

I am Tiger Woods.
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Tiger positioned himself to make money, not to be a role model
The media created the Tiger persona to make money, not better the lives of kids
It bit them in the ass, because he was not the person they hyped

Tiger is not a tragic fallen hero and role model who made a mistake
He is a hypocrite who was exposed for what he always was... arrogant, greedy, self-serving and by his own admission, someone to whom the rules did not apply
 
MacDawg said:
Tiger positioned himself to make money, not to be a role model
The media created the Tiger persona to make money, not better the lives of kids
It bit them in the ass, because he was not the person they hyped

Tiger is not a tragic fallen hero and role model who made a mistake
He is a hypocrite who was exposed for what he always was... arrogant, greedy, self-serving and by his own admission, someone to whom the rules did not apply
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Well, that's where I'll agree to disagree. And like you said, that's OK.
 
Tilpots said:
Somebody please tell me that Tiger Woods, not anybody else, didin't position himself as a role model. All other athletes, stars, personalities, etc, are not who this conversation is about.

I am Tiger Woods.
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Role models don't usually get paid to endorse products otherwise we'd be wearing things like Nelson Mandella brand Reebox, our kitchens would be filled with Ghandi brand cookware, Wheaties boxes with Ben Franklins portrait, or subway commercials with Carl Sagan.

Celebrities do these things--people mainly with no real significant accomplishment in particular to the benefit of society other than to entertain and distract.
 
Who cares what Tiger says - - that's old news. Here at MacRumors we should be asking whether Snow Leopard says the right things!
 
Tiger did A LOT for the game of golf. The other golfers benefitted too. I don't care about his sex life and I don't understand why anyone except his family or sponsors would care.
 
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