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Didn't get an iPhone 6 today? Here why
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Where is TSA when you need them!
(j/k)
There's no law against transporting a large number of iPhones on a plane.
Sure it's free market bla bla but I really do think Apple should limit how and who buys iPhones on launch.
Apple is actually losing money because of the scalpers.
If the phones were sold in China under MSRP Apple could sell 2-4 phones for the price of 1 black market import.
You don't really believe that he is importing a highly coveted item into China and sells it UNDER MSRP, do you? It's entirely unclear when Apple will start selling it in China. For the average Chinese worker, the iPhone costs about as much as he or she makes in 5 months.
He hasn't actually done anything wrong.
If anything he's proved that if you try hard enough you can get an iPhone easily.
If anything he's proved that if you try hard enough you can get an iPhone easily.
I was thinking about going there today to see what they have left. Hope it has died down some by now
On this picture nothing wrong indeed. A few questions could be asked about what a person carrying that many phones on a plane is up to though.
How did he get all these phones given that Apple will only sell 2 per person? Did he pay people to wait in line and buy them on his behalf? Were these people legally allowed to work in the country? Did he/them pay the appropriate taxes and social contributions associated to the wages?
What is he going to do with these phones? Is he going to sell them in the US? If yes is he going to pay appropriate taxes on his profits? (with that many it is a business, not an individual selling them) If not in the US, is he going to bring them to another country? Is the phone allowed for sale in that country by the relevant authorities? Is he going to pay the appropriate duty charges to import the phone there?
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Yep, a friend in New York took images of the first people waiting in line, day before and all were Chinese or asian.
That is ashame and I do not care if people think I am racist!
Have you checked store availability in your area?
http://store.apple.com/us/buy-iphone/iphone6/5.5-inch-display-64gb-silver-att
They don't have to open the phones.
Source, I just bought 4 iPhones for family members and I, and left the store still sealed.
If they fly to Hong Kong, there is no tariff. From there, I'm sure bribery is the norm to get them into mainland China.
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You can expect long lines of scalpers for weeks. The release of the iPhone in China will be a month, so this will be going on for some time.
Yes, thank you.. Looks like what I am after is out of stock. I was hoping that might not be accurate and maybe going in would be a better idea.
Guy at my apple store didn't open mine, asked if I needed help setting up and I said no and out the door I went still sealed
Well, I am better off just ordering on line then unless you think an ATT store would be a better option.
No questions need to be asked. He clearly paid people to stand in line and buy two phones.
There's nothing illegal about it, it's just morally wrong.
Who cares if he does or doesn't pay tax on them when he gets back to China?
I've been hearing a lot of ppl here have been checking just before and after midnight and getting success. So good luck to ya
Nothing illegal as long as these people are entitled to work in the US and everybody is paying taxes as they should. I have my doubts ...
You are free not to care of course, but nonetheless it is currently illegal to sell these phones in China, even more so if you didn't pay import duty.
Hence my original point: sure he is not doing anything wrong on these pictures, but he is likely to have done something illegal in one country to obtain the phones and to be planning on doing something illegal in another country to resell them. Judging by the pictures and if the bags are indeed filled with iPhones, the amount of money involved just for this particular trip is over $100000 - this wouldn't be pet crime.
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But... did he do employment checks on the people he "hired" to queue? Will he declare them for tax purposes? Did he pay tax for the wages of the people he "employed".
I very much doubt it.
Apple could easily stop this. Just make it 1 per person, credit/debit card/gift* card only and make people open them and activate them in store. I'm sure if employees explained to "genuine" customers the reasoning behind it, they'd understand.
* gift cards that haven't just been bought with cash, obviously
.To extend what has been said above - there was a news report which estimated (I use the term loosely because it was probably counted based on people who were together, without actually asking) over 400 scalpers in line at Regent Street. Based on the fact they were all going to buy 2 x 6+ each using cash, at an average of £699 per phone - that's an estimated £560,000 in cash at one store alone. You have to ask how they've come by that much cash (not many genuine businesses have that much in cash sitting in the bank).
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Release world-wide at the same time. Remove the walk-in nonsense and force everyone to pre-order with more time so that you can manufacture a more exactly number according to demand...
You only have to report income if it's over $600 for the year. I highly doubt he was paying people that much to wait in line.
Don't need employment checks for subcontractors. Don't have to give a subcontractor a 1099 unless you pay them 600+/yr.
You might not like their actions, but as of today, it's all legal. Whether or not the subcontractors declare their revenue on their 1040 is of no concern to the contractor. No I-9 form is required.
You might not like their actions, but as of today, it's all legal. Whether or not the subcontractors declare their revenue on their 1040 is of no concern to the contractor. No I-9 form is required.